Build Help 18 Fighter/2 Rogue

[Socio]

I'm trying to plan out my next life so far and have came to the conclusion of a fighter rogue build, but my search fu is weak and the ones I find are far from helpful to what I want to accomplish.

I would prefer it to be Dwarven for Axe enhancements as im trying to use my Lit II greataxe as much as possible through the lives which makes it THF and will be a 36 point build. Any help would be appreciated.

Socio

Edit* If possible I can switch to Helf and try and work in some self healing.

[whereispowderedsilve]

Bump for my fellow ddochat/ircer! unb/wow/kinerd/anyone else? throw us a bone plz?

I was able to find a couple but a bit outdated. Any help here would be greatly appreciated!

Super thanks in advance! xD! Cheers! :P! !

[Socio]

So far this is what I have came up with.

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Larzen  Gungrave
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Female
(18 Fighter \ 2 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 384
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 13
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    28
Dexterity            11                    13
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom               13                    15
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                     5
Bluff                -1                     3
Concentration         2                     6
Diplomacy            -1                     3
Disable Device        6                    26
Haggle                3                     4
Heal                  1                     2
Hide                  0                     1
Intimidate           -1                     5
Jump                  8                    14
Listen                5                     6
Move Silently         0                     1
Open Lock             4                     5
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                2                     3
Search                6                    26
Spot                  5                     6
Swim                  8                    13
Tumble                n/a                   3
Use Magic Device      3                    17

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+9)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery II
Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy IV
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization II
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I

[unbongwah]

Does it have to be ftr 18 / Kensai III? You'd have an easier time of maintaining skills if you went ftr 12 / rog 8; you'd also gain more SAs, more W&S Mastery, and Imp Uncanny Dodge.

[Socio]

I can work around with it if need be I just chose something that seemed simple *In theory* and decided to go with it. It's just something to chew threw a 3rd life so I want the damage and the trapping mostly *Seeing I solo mostly*. Is the build I ended up with terrible?

Socio

[whereispowderedsilve]

I can work around with it if need be I just chose something that seemed simple *In theory* and decided to go with it. It's just something to chew threw a 3rd life so I want the damage and the trapping mostly *Seeing I solo mostly*. Is the build I ended up with terrible?

Socio

Hey soc! Imo I don't think it's terrible per say. Now unb is the pro/expert so I will defer to him my only slight changes I would make are:

Switch the ranks from swim skill into something else(UMD/open locks balance).

Bump up the 2nd rogue level from 11 to 9.

Now I am very hungry while posting this so apologies in advance if that isn't good advice I'm not thinking 100% clearly! xD! :P! !

But that's all I can come up with at this point in time. Hopefully unb will be in a good mood & nice & post up a build for you!(cos he rocks!)

Cheers! :P! ! xD!

[Socio]

Yeah I will flesh out the skills alot better I kinda tossed them where ever as i was fed up putting the feats in the proper order.

Socio

[unbongwah]

Here's a modified version of a build I did for someone else; originally 28-pt build, but the premise is basically the same - greataxe-wielding dwarf ftr 12 / rog 8 with UMD & trap skills:

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Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Female
(12 Fighter \ 8 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 420
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 13
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    28
Dexterity            14                    16
Constitution         18                    22
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    22
Bluff                -2                     0
Concentration         4                     8
Diplomacy            -2                     0
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle                2                     2
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate           -2                     2
Jump                  8                    13
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             6                    18
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    27
Spot                  3                    14
Swim                  4                     9
Tumble                6                     7
Use Magic Device      2                    21

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III
Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery III

Epic feats: Overwhelming Critical and epic Toughness (hence why I took barb PL + reg. Toughness - need the latter as pre-req); if you think the HPs are overkill, you can drop Toughness & eT for other stuff (e.g., CE+Imp Trip, Power Crit).

[whereispowderedsilve]

Awesome unbongwah! Great work! You came through again! Two thumbs way up! :P! ! Cheers! xD! Thanks!

At least I *think* that's what Socio was looking for!

[Socio]

It looks good! I'm going to tinker around with all of them a little see what feels like my style once I get my sub back -.-
I appreciate your all's help ^^

Socio