Ninjarogue Dethfist

[DethTrip]

OK, bored, thought about the synergy between monks and rogues and came up with what appears to be a fun and usable build. Here it is.

DPS Monk attack speed, [2W]1d6 fists damage, 8d6+12 sneak attack damage, Touch of death, stunning fist, bypass 35% enemy fort, 3% double strike, Rogue haste boost IV, ki strikes, TOD rings

DEFENSE Good base dodge (16%?), improved uncanny dodge, shadow fade, improved evasion, good AC potential, good saves, immune to sleep and natural diseases

UTILITY Traps, UMD, Cleric Dillitante (raise dead, heal scrolls, wands...), fast movement x3

Obviously GMOF and a few twists go a long way to making this a more powerful build. Good gear would be essential as well. Let me know whatcha think.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(9 Monk \ 11 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 260
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 18
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    23
Dexterity            15                    20
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom               15                    20
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    28
Bluff                -1                     0
Concentration         2                    26
Diplomacy            -1                     0
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle               -1                     2
Heal                  2                     5
Hide                  5                    10
Intimidate           -1                     0
Jump                  6                    23
Listen                2                     5
Move Silently         6                    11
Open Lock             6                    12
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    25
Spot                  6                    20
Swim                  2                     6
Tumble                3                     8
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+3)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+6)


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey II
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

[goodoldxelos]

Not bad, dps is a bit low but I may think about this if i do a rogue life.

[DethTrip]

Not bad, dps is a bit low but I may think about this if i do a rogue life.

Glad you are considering the build but I would have to differ with you about the dps. It is certainly not a max dps build but with all the stuff listed under dps it would provide above average melee dps imo. Can you please explain why you believe the dps would be low?

[unbongwah]

I think I prefer monk 12 / rog 8: almost the same sneak atk (+2d6 from NS II vs +2d6+3 from extra rog lvls) and you keep Imp Uncanny Dodge; but gain lvl 3 stances & access to the monk-specific epic feats (Imp Martial Arts & Vorpal Strikes). I also think adding Power Atk + Imp Sunder would be more useful than Mobility + Spring Atk (esp. since you can get Mobility on gear these days).

[destiny4405]

too much monk lvls for my taste. one is enough.

[karl_k0ch]

Considering UMD as a class skill, I don't think that Cleric Dilly is actually needed at cap. The synergies of stunners, SA damage and unarmed attack speed is great. See also http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=348658.

I'm not sure if that huge amount of +dodge% feats is actually needed to get to 25%. You can have up to 10% from gear, and passive bonuses (eg. Uncanny, Water Stance) and epic destinies offer a lot, too.

[DethTrip]

I think I prefer monk 12 / rog 8: almost the same sneak atk (+2d6 from NS II vs +2d6+3 from extra rog lvls) and you keep Imp Uncanny Dodge; but gain lvl 3 stances & access to the monk-specific epic feats (Imp Martial Arts & Vorpal Strikes). I also think adding Power Atk + Imp Sunder would be more useful than Mobility + Spring Atk (esp. since you can get Mobility on gear these days).

Very good suggetion. Also get immunity to natural poison, 1 step fist damage, 1 more fast movement, and last but certainly not least, abundant step. I will certainly consider all this and look at either altering the build or making another one. Thanks again.

Considering UMD as a class skill, I don't think that Cleric Dilly is actually needed at cap. The synergies of stunners, SA damage and unarmed attack speed is great. See also http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=348658.

I'm not sure if that huge amount of +dodge% feats is actually needed to get to 25%. You can have up to 10% from gear, and passive bonuses (eg. Uncanny, Water Stance) and epic destinies offer a lot, too.

I had already considered that cleric dilly could be swapped out when UMD is high enough. I wouldn't fight in water stance but your point is well taken, other feats could be taken in place of those. Thanks for your reply.