Help me on feat selection plz!

[nikos1313]

Druid, 32 point for now, ill TR soon.

Wolf melee spec with augment summon, not interested on offensive casting, just heal, and maybe Earthquake.
i also play with my pet, so he gets his share on the buffage also.

atm im lvl 21 with:

Augment Summon
Imp Crit: Blunt
Nat Fighting x3
Power Attack
Quicken
Toughness x1
Weapon Focus: Blunt
and i intend to get Power Crit at lvl 24.

also i use a Lit II qstaff.

but lattely im think to swap to 2wf with Scimitars, but i need advice there.. only 10 feats ill get up to lvl 25, withought the class feats ofc. so i want your help on feat selection on 2wf with Scimitars! plz make sure u include Augment summon though and also include the stat alotment too, for 32 point and 34 point builds! thnx in advance! so far i have Str,Dex,Con,Cha +3 tomes and Int,Wis +2 tomes

[Dhakonus]

There is no 2wf on wolf form,you hit only with the primary weapon.So,it may be better to get a decent shield,wall of wood or one with seeker +10 for example,and get the 2 shield mastery feats,they give you 8% doublestrike,and with legendary shield mastery from unyielding sentinel you get another 7% doublestrike.Also an alchemical scimitar would add another 6% doublestrike.So i would suggest to drop weapon focus and power crit for those 2.I also preferred empower heal over augment summons,but that's your call.

[erikbozelie]

There is no 2wf on wolf form,you hit only with the primary weapon.So,it may be better to get a decent shield,wall of wood or one with seeker +10 for example,and get the 2 shield mastery feats,they give you 8% doublestrike,and with legendary shield mastery from unyielding sentinel you get another 7% doublestrike.Also an alchemical scimitar would add another 6% doublestrike.So i would suggest to drop weapon focus and power crit for those 2.I also preferred empower heal over augment summons,but that's your call.

as i read this right, your primairy weapon hits as a 1hander?

how about glancing blows(2h, or dwarven axe?)

[moriedhel]

There's no TWF or THF fighting as a wolf druid, all you get is an unarmed single target attack, no glancing blows, no benefit from using a two handed weapon, therefore the best option to go is sword and shield so shield mastery and improved shield mastery are a must.

I prefer precision to power attack especially if you are pure druid and get the extra sneak attack damage from the capstone but that's just me.

[hermespan]

There is no 2wf on wolf form,you hit only with the primary weapon.So,it may be better to get a decent shield,wall of wood or one with seeker +10 for example,and get the 2 shield mastery feats,they give you 8% doublestrike,and with legendary shield mastery from unyielding sentinel you get another 7% doublestrike.Also an alchemical scimitar would add another 6% doublestrike.So i would suggest to drop weapon focus and power crit for those 2.I also preferred empower heal over augment summons,but that's your call.

qft (mostly)
You don't need weapon focus to hit stuff, not even on epic diffs. If you do find yourself in a position where you can't hit stuff, (like a really high AC boss) simply turn off PA. +1 to hit won't do you much good in that situation anyway. Weapon focus is one of those feats you take if you can't find anything else you want to take at that level and have feat slots to burn (like on a fighter), or need it for a pre-req of something that's a pre-req for a PrE.

Power crit is a waste of a feat slot on any (ANY!!!) character, unless you are a fighter or some other class that has feat slots to burn. Even if you are a fighter you can take better feats with that slot.

Druid is feat starved. Never take this feat. There are better ways to boost seeker that don't take feat slots or have equally useless pre-requisite feats. You can have +12 seeker pretty easy (+2 exceptional, +10 on a buckler) and that's more than enough.

double strike, double strike double strike. That's all I'm sayin about feat selection on wolf druid. You need quicken, though I almost never turn it on. It's useful when you get swarmed and your heals are failing because you are getting hit.

IC Bludgeon is a must have. Natural fighting x3, PA, and toughness are no-brainers.

Personally I wouldn't drop augment for any 2 feats unless you don't use pets/summons/hirelings. Like it or not, your pets/summons/panther do a lot for you. As it is, *with* augment, keeping them alive can be challenging when fighting end-bosses or stuff like dire bears on EH diff. Without augment, I don't see pets even being useful at the times you most need them, except as short lived agro magnets. They'll die easier, won't do nearly as much dps, etc etc etc.

I say this with the caveat that wisdom is your primary stat. If it's not, even with augment your summons and pets will suck.

[nikos1313]

my wisdom comes 3rd, after str n con. my pet is pretty essential, especially when i solo stuff. with ship and my buffs he can easily reach 860 HP at least. imagine that he tanks the dragons in Kings forest. i also use a paralizer collar on him and even in kings forest it procs pretty often. his stats r pretty uber and he has imp evasion. but still my wisdom is 3rd after str n con.

anywayz, i decided to alter my build a bit.

ill go for: augment/nat fight x3/toughness/power attack/shield mastery/imp shield mastery/quicken/imp crit slash, for the scimitar.
but that will w8 a bit till i get some gear!

btw atm i have imnp crit Blunt, but it doesnt work on GS qstaff. though it works on that monk staff from villager commendation trader

[Diyon]

my wisdom comes 3rd, after str n con. my pet is pretty essential, especially when i solo stuff. with ship and my buffs he can easily reach 860 HP at least. imagine that he tanks the dragons in Kings forest. i also use a paralizer collar on him and even in kings forest it procs pretty often. his stats r pretty uber and he has imp evasion. but still my wisdom is 3rd after str n con.

anywayz, i decided to alter my build a bit.

ill go for: augment/nat fight x3/toughness/power attack/shield mastery/imp shield mastery/quicken/imp crit slash, for the scimitar.
but that will w8 a bit till i get some gear!

btw atm i have imnp crit Blunt, but it doesnt work on GS qstaff. though it works on that monk staff from villager commendation trader

Woah! Nononono! Imp crit bludgeoning is the ONLY Imp. crit feat that works in wolf form. Don't change it.

As others have said, double strike away, get the shield feats, get legendary shield mastery twisted, and get doublestrike gear.

[nikos1313]

Woah! Nononono! Imp crit bludgeoning is the ONLY Imp. crit feat that works in wolf form. Don't change it.

As others have said, double strike away, get the shield feats, get legendary shield mastery twisted, and get doublestrike gear.

hhmm.. didnt knew that! apparently, im lvl 21 druid, and i still know not even half for teh class!!

but still, i dont need imp crit blunt, so ill swap it anywayz

[Diyon]

hhmm.. didnt knew that! apparently, im lvl 21 druid, and i still know not even half for teh class!!

but still, i dont need imp crit blunt, so ill swap it anywayz

I'd argue that it is extremely important. One of the best things about wolf druids is the Essence of the Shrike enhancement, which you get 20 temporary SP on crits. Without imp crit you are critically 10% (1 out of 10 hits) of the time. With it you will be critically 20% (1 out of 5 hits) of the time. And you get a x3 multiplier at that! Crits and doublestrike is where it's at!

[RavenStormclaw]

Some will hate me for this but I don't care. natural fighting x 3 is a waste. Period. Druid is feat starved and wastiing 3 of them on the same feat, yes I know they stack, is a poor choice. There are other feats, you have blue bars...come on now use them

I'll just use this as a general rant. We, as druids, can heal. In fact, we can solo heal a 6 man group in most dungeons. I will exclude raids. However, druids have a bad rap as not being healers. I've been in so many Pugs where people make comments like "shouldn't we wait for a healer" or some variation of the theme. Yet here I am...sitting here wonderineig..why would you say that. Well I know...it because we as group have given our selves a bad rep by being so enthralled with the meelee wolf form druid that everything else seems to get neglected. Well I for one am tired of it...I am tired of people saying the druid class is "meh" or it sucks. I can tell you mine doesn't...I've met a few others that haven't as well. The class doesn't either.

sorry for the rant I just needed to get that off my chest...lol

[Diyon]

Some will hate me for this but I don't care. natural fighting x 3 is a waste. Period. Druid is feat starved and wastiing 3 of them on the same feat, yes I know they stack, is a poor choice. There are other feats, you have blue bars...come on now use them

I'll just use this as a general rant. We, as druids, can heal. In fact, we can solo heal a 6 man group in most dungeons. I will exclude raids. However, druids have a bad rap as not being healers. I've been in so many Pugs where people make comments like "shouldn't we wait for a healer" or some variation of the theme. Yet here I am...sitting here wonderineig..why would you say that. Well I know...it because we as group have given our selves a bad rep by being so enthralled with the meelee wolf form druid that everything else seems to get neglected. Well I for one am tired of it...I am tired of people saying the druid class is "meh" or it sucks. I can tell you mine doesn't...I've met a few others that haven't as well. The class doesn't either.

sorry for the rant I just needed to get that off my chest...lol

My wolf druid has filled the healing role on quite a few occasions. I have maximize, empower, and quicken. I also wear a devotion item. While I'll agree that natural fighting isn't worth if you aren't melee focused in animal form, it most definitely is if that is what you are doing.

Now provided, I don't normally like being in a dedicated healing role, but I can still do it if needed. If I'm in a support healing role I'm happiest in melee throwing my masses on the group gathered up there.

[moriedhel]

hhmm.. didnt knew that! apparently, im lvl 21 druid, and i still know not even half for teh class!!

but still, i dont need imp crit blunt, so ill swap it anywayz

imp crit blunt works with unarmed attacks which include animal form attacks and is the only one that works, regardless of what weapon you actually equip in wolf form, so if you want to do damage in wolf form you should really keep it

[Lonnbeimnech]

hhmm.. didnt knew that! apparently, im lvl 21 druid, and i still know not even half for teh class!!

but still, i dont need imp crit blunt, so ill swap it anywayz

Yeah, on that note, druid is a hybrid class, building one as a pure melee, you will be disapointed with the damage output compared to a real melee dps class like barb or fighter, you wont be anywhere near their output, not monk, not even ranger, maybe about where a warchanter is.

Likewise, building one as a pure caster will not come anywhere near what a sorc or a wizard can do, not even as good as a cleric (they get energy drain and implosion, you have nothing like this, though your cc is better).

But your dps comes together nicely when you combine the 2, meleeing inside a firewall or icestorm, or taking bear form and dot tanking with creaping cold for really hard fights.

I know you said you are not interested in offensive casting. Despite this, I would still recommend you find room for maximize even on a wis dump build.

[Uhtred_Stark]

If you were building a druid as a caster/melee how would this feat set up look?

(human)
1 Toughness
1 Augment summons
3 Nat Fighting
6 PA
9 Maximize
12 IC Bludg
15 Shield Mastery
18 Nat Fighting
21 Imp Shield Mastery

24 could be either another nat fighting, quicken, or mental toughness depending on how you preferred to play.