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    Default Legendary Dreadnought Siberys Defender

    Editing this as an update on 1-21-13:
    I made this build as a 36 point human paladin 18/ Fighter 2 (for the extra feats and tower shield prof) I have 3 past lives barb +30 hp and 1 past life as a fighter. This build is made after zavarthak's build here:http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=387055. So I can't really claim originality of this but this is my paladin version of it so far.
    feats in no particular order:
    1)Dwarven axe prof, THF
    3)shield mastery
    6) power attack
    9) cleave
    12)great cleave
    15) imp crit slashing
    18)ITHF
    19) GTF, Tower shield Prof(granted)
    20) improved shield mastery
    epic 21)overwhelming crit
    epic 24) stunning blow

    Gear:
    head: purple dragon helmet at the moment, planning to have epic helm of frost
    cloak: GS cloak of concord opposition, epic envenomed cloak
    ring:stalker ring
    ring: dun ro bar of stunning +10
    belt: epic spare hand
    boots: treads of falling shadow,plannign on epic boots fo corrosion
    armor: embrace of the spider queen, 3 scales away from red corm armor
    gloves: purple dragon, epic gloves of the claw
    necklace: +7cha, +6 natural armor, Epic sirens charm (+2 saves, +4 insight AC)
    trinquet: focus of prowess +8 str or epic gem of many facets
    goggles: drow goggles/tharnes/lens of the wooodsman
    bracers: twisting shade
    shield: bastion sheild for the extra DR and shield bashing feat which I'm missing due to lack of feats.
    weapons: epic templars D. axe

    -Now for some of this gear I believe it will fit much better once U17 goes live to help witht he slotting of +7/+2 inshgt and +1 except augment slots, as well as the ability to do +7natural armor and +7 prot slots but we will see.

    stats: all +4 tomes
    Str: 18 base, all lvls up into str (not sure the break down but with ships buffs i'm at 48 atm/ 50 with abaishi set bonus)
    dex: 8 base, 23 w/ship buffs
    Con: 16 base, 38 w/ship buffs
    int: 8 base i think, 14 or 16 w/ship buffs ( doesn't really matter for me anyways)
    Wis: 8 base, 20 w/ship buffs
    Cha 15 base, 30 w/ship buffs

    The build works really well even though I have had to give up some DPS from tthe fighter version, I dont feel that I lost alot in that department while gaining considerably better saves (doing this by memory) but self buffed I beleive they are 60 fort, 46 reflex and 43 will.

    Legendary Dreadnought:
    x6 crit profile o axes
    30% damage boost x8

    twisting:
    sense weakness
    shild mastery
    shield prowess

    With the human versaitility it covers an extra damage boost x8 and fighter gives another 15% haste boost x8. With the LD I get 24 boosts total and sense weakness I get the extra 80% damage against helpless mobs.

    So all in all I feel I lost a little bit of damage (regualry lead the kill count so it must be competitive still), but gained a better UMD/ LoH x5 and a huge increase to saves (which drove me nuts before because my saves sucked as a fighter). I dont count on my healings spells and mostly just use my SP for buffs. As far as gear goes I'm trying to figure out a optimum set of gear to use while still being able to stun, need a wisdom boost to effectivley cast and keep a high charisma for obvious palading reasons. Is the planned set I listed good or am I going in the wrong direcction for a DPS oriented paladin with shield and axe? I would have followed Zav's list of gear but it just doesn't seem to work as well for a paladin.

    P.S.
    Thank you Zavarthak for the original DDD build, am enjoying my own version of it immmensley.
    Last edited by bratos01; 01-21-2013 at 04:46 PM.

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    AFAIK, Imp Shield Bash isn't WAI and is a wasted feat until it's fixed. Also, you can't take Extend as a ftr bonus feat. I think the THF chain is still worth adding to a S&B tank.
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    THF chain feats for LD with D-Axe is mandatory because it improves greatly all cleaves and momentum swing.
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    How valuable is the THF chain though. From my understanding on cleave and great cleave it counts as a full attack on every mob in the arc. Also I was think given the pally attacks as well that a majority of your attacks would come from feats and class and not from auto attack. Which from my understanding would limit THF feat chain as it works best off auto attacks.

    Although if I'm wrong the build could drop improve shield bash and prolly stun or extend and gain at least THF and ITHF which would work at really well with the swing, swing,cleave, swing , swing, great cleave etc rotation

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    IIUC, glancing blows will proc both when you're standing still swinging away and when you're using your Cleaves, Lay Wastes, etc. So for every 2H DPS-oriented build going Legendary Dreadnought, you want THF x3, Power Atk, Cleave & GC, Imp Crit, and Overwhelming Crit; anything you drop from that list is gonna reduce your overall DPS. For a S&B tank, add Shield Mastery & ISM. That's 10 feats out of 11 total (7 base + 2 ftr + 2 epic); add Toughness or barb PL & call it a day. Your AC will suffer without CE, but your PRR should still be pretty good.

    So just messing with the builder for fun:
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    Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Female
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Paladin) 
    Hit Points: 430
    Spell Points: 230 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 28
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 13
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             17                    26
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         18                    22
    Intelligence          8                    10
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             15                    18
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury
    
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 5 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 6 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 7 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
    Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
    Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
    Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
    Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
    Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
    Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
    Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
    Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys II
    Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys III
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate III
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate IV
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III
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    If you cannot Momentum Swing each time you can your DPS will suffer greatly (for that you need PA on), that means CE will be off most of the time, except for hardest tanking content. Remember less DPS means as well less threat.
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    bump: editied to clean up and update my original post. Any advice on making my toon better would be great.

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    I'm thinking about a similar build... still wondering about what is best pure20 pally or 18/2 fgt... But my question:
    Why is so important THF line if you are using weapon+shield all time?

    Ty,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalevor View Post
    I'm thinking about a similar build... still wondering about what is best pure20 pally or 18/2 fgt... But my question:
    Why is so important THF line if you are using weapon+shield all time?

    Ty,

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    With Dwarven Axes and Bastard Swords weilded one handed, you get glancing bows. The THF line pumps glancing blows a great deal, enough to make it almost indisputably worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    With Dwarven Axes and Bastard Swords weilded one handed, you get glancing bows. The THF line pumps glancing blows a great deal, enough to make it almost indisputably worth it.
    Ty for the quick answer, i didn't know it. Well, i was thinking about a similar build but using Mohr instead D-axe o B-sword. Now i don't if i can reach similar dps... i need to think about it.

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