Question????

[Beer_Dude]

With all the epic/high end gear out ATM. What's the best place to craft/put a Green Steel HP item for a melee toon?

[Symerith]

Hard to say without knowing what build you have, comes down to : what gear you have available, what toon it is (THF, TWF, AA splash, evasion or no) and if you want an all around gear setup or varied depending on situation...

[Beer_Dude]

Hard to say without knowing what build you have, comes down to : what gear you have available, what toon it is (THF, TWF, AA splash, evasion or no) and if you want an all around gear setup or varied depending on situation...

Has no gear ATM first lifer getting ready to TR. Past life was a barb. Going to go something like the blitz build bt THF instead of TWF. So it will have UMD and evasion.

[Symerith]

Has no gear ATM first lifer getting ready to TR. Past life was a barb. Going to go something like the blitz build bt THF instead of TWF. So it will have UMD and evasion.

If I were you, I would avoid :

Helm/Gloves/Armor - > Purple dragon knight set, almost no grind compared to what a claw set would represent in terms of hours of farming.

Belt/Ring -> TOD set 1
Neck/Ring -> TOD set 2

goggles : drow smoke or tharnes
trinket : litany, planar focus

Leaves you with cloak/boots/bracers. The new cloak from challenges is decent so leaves you with boots or bracers for a hp item.

If you like to plan ahead and get ready for epic GH, probably go with the bracers slot.

But once again, it all comes down to your build and what you have available. Let's say, you never run TOD.. means there's no point in saving the hp item for necklace and belt, in which case you could get the 3 piece abishai and wear a +10 HP belt with +5 cha skills AND alchemist pendant so you would get both 35hp and UMD item without having to switch around (especially with umd lag) and crafting 2 diff. items.

[Beer_Dude]

If I were you, I would avoid :

Helm/Gloves/Armor - > Purple dragon knight set, almost no grind compared to what a claw set would represent in terms of hours of farming.

Belt/Ring -> TOD set 1
Neck/Ring -> TOD set 2

goggles : drow smoke or tharnes
trinket : litany, planar focus

Leaves you with cloak/boots/bracers. The new cloak from challenges is decent so leaves you with boots or bracers for a hp item.

If you like to plan ahead and get ready for epic GH, probably go with the bracers slot.

But once again, it all comes down to your build and what you have available. Let's say, you never run TOD.. means there's no point in saving the hp item for necklace and belt, in which case you could get the 3 piece abishai and wear a +10 HP belt with +5 cha skills AND alchemist pendant so you would get both 35hp and UMD item without having to switch around (especially with umd lag) and crafting 2 diff. items.

Thanks for the advice.

[Ninety]

most of my melee's have have HP as a necklace slot. seriously there is no need for 2 tod sets anymore.

on a blitz, use ravager/encrusted depending on the area and that free's up your other ring and necklace slots.

can use a seal of house dun'robar or epic ring of the stalker instead.

[Arkat]

Bracers

[arjiwan]

Bracers

How about Claw Set? Any good?

[Arkat]

How about Claw Set? Any good?

Bracers can be replaced with the Gem of Many Facets.

[Khellendros13]

Honestly you don't even need one for most of the content, so I make it on the goggle slot and swap in HP item when tanking and thus don't need Tharnes.

Any slot you use for HP item will mean a loss of DPS anyway, and probably 1 less epic slot or more. You could put a HP item in bracers slot, and use GOMF+ Claw Gloves for the set, but then you need to make the HP item Min2 and then use a ToD ring for +2 con, locking out Epic Ring of the Stalker+Seal of Dunrobar. So you lose more DPS or tactics ability.

That is just one example.

[wax_on_wax_off]

My archer has GS MinII Belt and Helm, I swap between them depending on what gear set I have equipped (originally it was belt but I like the Sun Soul set enough that I made the second but still like belt for a gear set with Frozen Tunic).

My unarmed rogue has bracers and I'm considering crafting a helm for him exactly the same as my archer for exactly the same reasons.

/sigh.

[scottmike0]

im considering on my monk to make a hp con opp necklace, since i see no need to wear anything but a +6 wisdom necklace....
cloak is probably going to change almost all the time boots, are meh
i cannot decide whether to get chronoscope boots or epic rock boots.....

even though i don't see my self doing the challenges, because i still don't quite get them all....

bracers- always ac area.... belt... hard to say if level 18 then +6 con gfl if level 20 , any stat, probably where i may set my charisma skill item..

gloves.. no doubt of course the +5 umd gloves....

helm- abashai with something in it to protect what i losted on the belt side...
googles, More haste therefore googles of time sensing with more wisdom boost.... and something else...

i don't see how or why +6 damage (on crits)can make a difference on a melee... especially when there is more than one strength buff to add into that..

cloak- well.... probably abashai here so that im able to scroll heal while not losing anything...

trinket... well.. that is a swaping piece, more umd like +3 orr more hp like +10 or a stat area....

as usual i will always swap armors, if i want less damage then more ac...
if i want more damage, then blood rage,
if i want guard damage, then corrosive salt + radiance + crushing wave i think, if possible...
if i want more permanent damage, then reinforced fist..

w/ this gear set up, that i'll eventually(in time) get i believe that i will gain tons of things from it.. especially the easy usage of using tenser scrolls...

which can add greatly to damage :3
(in reference to the thread, as in it may help it may not)

[wax_on_wax_off]

im considering on my monk to make a hp con opp necklace, since i see no need to wear anything but a +6 wisdom necklace....
cloak is probably going to change almost all the time boots, are meh
i cannot decide whether to get chronoscope boots or epic rock boots.....

even though i don't see my self doing the challenges, because i still don't quite get them all....

bracers- always ac area.... belt... hard to say if level 18 then +6 con gfl if level 20 , any stat, probably where i may set my charisma skill item..

gloves.. no doubt of course the +5 umd gloves....

helm- abashai with something in it to protect what i losted on the belt side...
googles, More haste therefore googles of time sensing with more wisdom boost.... and something else...

i don't see how or why +6 damage (on crits)can make a difference on a melee... especially when there is more than one strength buff to add into that..

cloak- well.... probably abashai here so that im able to scroll heal while not losing anything...

trinket... well.. that is a swaping piece, more umd like +3 orr more hp like +10 or a stat area....

as usual i will always swap armors, if i want less damage then more ac...
if i want more damage, then blood rage,
if i want guard damage, then corrosive salt + radiance + crushing wave i think, if possible...
if i want more permanent damage, then reinforced fist..

w/ this gear set up, that i'll eventually(in time) get i believe that i will gain tons of things from it.. especially the easy usage of using tenser scrolls...

which can add greatly to damage :3
(in reference to the thread, as in it may help it may not)

Kyosho's set taking up Necklace/Ring is still a very good combo so I definitely wouldn't make a GS Necklace.

Armour is a good spot for armour bonus (surprisingly enough) rather than bracers.

Bear Cloak is best in slot for monk I think, the PRR is huge for a monk and I think overall the item slightly edges out the Epic Spare Hand (though slots might tip this the other way depending on what you can/need to slot).

Litany of the Dead/Pale Lavender Ioun Stone are still what comes to mind for trinket. Until then the pirate trinkets swapped around as needed seems the best use for the trinket slot. L16 Blasting Chime slotted with 33% fire/electric absorb is another great idea.

Gloves is 30% heal amp, claw or PDK, no way around that unless you get a nice Greater Convalescent loot gen item.

Boots is Madstone. The additional attack speed that you get from being madstoned without having to scroll tensers in a raid fight makes it totally worth it and if you need to scroll heal you just click defensive fighting. In quests if you are healing continuously then rock boots are the best choice.

Bracers/Belt/Helm are what I'd look at for GS HP, probably helm for a monk as the Sun Soul set is so good in earth stance.

[Beer_Dude]

TY for all the input peeps. It's much appreciated.