Lamannia Update 16 Names Items List

[Zhacko]

Hey, it looks like no one has started this list yet. I was running some of the new quests and I pulled this in The Lost Souls' Swamp.


Ironwood_Khopesh2 by jtbaron_njit, on Flickr


Ironwood_Khopesh by jtbaron_njit, on Flickr

So, for everyone looking for that new endgame Khopesh, here you go. It's also made of wood, so have fun druids!

[Noir]

I pulled a superior Heartseeker shortsword out of one of the rare chests in the high road slayer area. Which seems to be a new weapons suffix.

[Zhacko]

I was looking at it. It is a sweet new weapon ability. (I've linked your image below)

[Failedlegend]

So to REAL people thats means 20d6 on x2 crit, 20D8 for x 3 and 20d10 for x 4...wicked...remind me why they took out Dice notation again

[Shade]

What difficulty?

based on the "epic" in the upper right corner, maybe its like U15 loot again.

I mean it looks rather weak to me, but if thats just the normal version, then the EE one might ok.

Plus why do the devs constantly do this:
It has plain to see readily aparent bugs: It description clearly states "it's as strong and strong as adamantine" yet the hardness is of a regular weak wood weapon of that level. (It does at least appear to break adamantine DR at least).

Pretty much the vast majority of special material type weapons are always bugged in some fasion like this. Is it like a rule or something for loot designers?

[Zhacko]

What difficulty?

I ran the quest on Epic Casual actually (It's CR-24 on normal) when it dropped this.

I think it's a little more geared towards Druids, since it's wood, shillelagh can be cast on it.

[kingfisher]

will heartseeker be an possible suffix on a ml24 challenge weapon?

[Noir]

heartseeker has a bashing a slashing counterpart.

[Tiamas]

Looks like some massively improved "blast" effects. I like it.

[Kambuk]

All from chain end reward except the 1st Shadowmail - that was from the Greenstalker optional chest in The End of the Road
From this you can see than there are (probably) better versions of them all that drop from the quests.
I took the orb as then end reward it doesn't appear to do anything when you block with it.

Kambuk

Note: Whole Chain was done on Epic Hard, end rewards were all (I assume) the Epic Normal versions.

[Carpone]

Non-combat skills on gear is a waste of the itemization budget. If I need Search and/or Disable, I'll temporarily swap to gear. Also, this completely ignored previous bracer gearing. Where's the +2 insightful CON? Where does Heavy Fort (from eClaw Bracer) go now?

Same point about the Open Lock here as I made about the bracers. Lesser Arcane Casting Dexterity makes no sense on a melee item.

Armor descriptions need to clearly specify if they're made for druids or not.

Disappointing. There's no implement bonus and there's no ice lore. Dont expect either of that to change on higher difficulties. The 5% absorb is laughable.

[Thrudh]

Non-combat skills on gear is a waste of the itemization budget. If I need Search and/or Disable, I'll temporarily swap to gear.

Agreed..

Also, this completely ignored previous bracer gearing. Where's the +2 insightful CON? Where does Heavy Fort (from eClaw Bracer) go now?

New gear ALWAYS requires an inventory shuffle. Why is this surprising to you? How in the world can you be upset by that? You really think they should design gear around YOUR currrent setup?

[Diyon]

New gear ALWAYS requires an inventory shuffle. Why is this surprising to you? How in the world can you be upset by that? You really think they should design gear around YOUR currrent setup?

I was thinking the same thing. Not everyone is currently using heavy fort and +2 ins con in the bracers slot. Why should those always be in the bracers slot?

[Carpone]

New gear ALWAYS requires an inventory shuffle. Why is this surprising to you? How in the world can you be upset by that? You really think they should design gear around YOUR currrent setup?

I expect to see Heavy Fort to show up somewhere else when new gear displaces established slots. None of the U14 chests except Cormyrian Red Dragonscale has Heavy Fort. So tell me, where do you slot it? Are we still stuck with using Epic Envenomed Cloak slotted with Heavy Fort? That means we can't even consider the U15 challenge cloaks, or the upgraded Mabar Cloak.

I would love to see a dev post what they think the topend gear setup is for each class. Determining optimal gear setup in DDO requires too much meticulous planning.

[Tid12]

I would love to see a dev post what they think the topend gear setup is for each class. Determining optimal gear setup in DDO requires too much meticulous planning.

I would like to see Feather come in here and start discuss how to improve items. It's never happened with items, maybe a bit with destinies. Genasi used to do this and he was becoming pretty good with making new items appealing.

[kingfisher]

I expect to see Heavy Fort to show up somewhere else when new gear displaces established slots. None of the U14 chests except Cormyrian Red Dragonscale has Heavy Fort. So tell me, where do you slot it? Are we still stuck with using Epic Envenomed Cloak slotted with Heavy Fort? That means we can't even consider the U15 challenge cloaks, or the upgraded Mabar Cloak.

I would love to see a dev post what they think the topend gear setup is for each class. Determining optimal gear setup in DDO requires too much meticulous planning.

seems to me like they are trying to give players more ways to skin the cat without adding more 'must have' gear only located in a single slot.

[Thrudh]

I expect to see Heavy Fort to show up somewhere else when new gear displaces established slots. None of the U14 chests except Cormyrian Red Dragonscale has Heavy Fort. So tell me, where do you slot it? Are we still stuck with using Epic Envenomed Cloak slotted with Heavy Fort? That means we can't even consider the U15 challenge cloaks, or the upgraded Mabar Cloak.

I would love to see a dev post what they think the topend gear setup is for each class. Determining optimal gear setup in DDO requires too much meticulous planning.

There should NEVER be ONE topend gear setup for any class. Determining optimal gear setup in DDO for your characters is a huge part of end-game. The less "best-in-slot" gear we have, the better.

Slot heavy fort somewhere else, or skip the new bracers. Both are options.

[Ivan_Milic]

I expect to see Heavy Fort to show up somewhere else when new gear displaces established slots. None of the U14 chests except Cormyrian Red Dragonscale has Heavy Fort. So tell me, where do you slot it? Are we still stuck with using Epic Envenomed Cloak slotted with Heavy Fort? That means we can't even consider the U15 challenge cloaks, or the upgraded Mabar Cloak.

I would love to see a dev post what they think the topend gear setup is for each class. Determining optimal gear setup in DDO requires too much meticulous planning.

On my barb I slot heavy fort on epic blasting chime.

[Zhacko]

It looks like they are now showing which version of the item it is by the "Epic" and "Epic Hard" notations in the item descriptions for the named loot. Also, it looks like the elemental magic type bonus on the Shadowmail is possibly random as one has glaciation and another has magnetism.

[Shade]

What's up with named armor constantly having vastly inferior AC to lootgen lately? That was never the case pre U14. Did the devs who designed this stuff forget about the fact higher lvl loot gets vastly improved AC/Dex/etc now? Seems like they did. Especially frusterating now that AC may actaully have some effect.

I mean look at this:

U15:
Epic Elite Firebreak (Very hard to get top tier ml24 half plate)
AC: 17 +7, Dex: 5

Plain jane ml24 halfplate for next to nothing on the auction house:
AC 21 + 7, Dex: 6

4 worse AC and 1 less dex? or vs the lvl20 tier - it's still inferior by 1 AC. Makes no sense at all.

U16:
EN Whisperchain (ml23)
AC: 9 +6, Dex: 11
Mithral Chainmail per description

Plain jane ml24 Celestial Chainmail:
AC: 12 +6, Dex 12

3 less AC vs garbage lootgen (1 less then ml20 sprit craft). 1 less dex.

Also seems bugged: Mithral material, but no mithral enchantment. Would also explain the poor dex. Should be +2 dex if its mithral, yet its 1 less?

ACP/ASF also seems off, tho dont have the lootgen stats of that on hand to compare.

EH Shadowmail (ml24)
AC11 +7, Dex: 12

Descript indicates its Spirit Forged Scalemail with "ease of movement" so, more dex..

Lootgen plane jane spiritforged mail (ml20):
AC14 +6, Dex 6
mm doesn't even match at all. -3 ac and +6 dex because of its "ease of movement" yet the weightless mithral armor has negative 1 dex?
Let's try something closer - Celestial Chainmail (which is light armor, but its the closest stats):
AC12 +7 Dex: 12
still 1 inferior AC vs lootgen armor of a lower tier meh. The item itself also makes no sense. Boosts arcane spell dmg (divines dont get cold dmg), yet has ASF and med armor.. I mean i guess meleecasters? but im quite sure they generally prefer armor that ups melee dps, not spell. Pretty sure they'd much prefer the whisperchain, which actually has really good enchantments for a meleecaster, and lower enough ASF to reduce to zero with a simple epic augment in another slot.