New Mabar items?

[Thrudh]

Yep, dodge 1+2, or 4% would be better.

Not for me, since I have 4% on my armor, and can make 2%,1% Cannith bracers to replace my 3%, 1% bracers.

No matter what number they picked, some people will be able to fit into their gear easily, but most will have to do the old "inventory shuffle"

[Cyr]

Totally excited about Mabar coming.

Mabar led to a long break from the game for me. Truly the least fun thing in the game to me bar none. Heck, I have more fun running E3.

The level 24 cloak is excellent, but man I do not know if I can stomach running any mabar content again.

[psteen1]

Hey I have an idea....how about running the festival for something called FUN! Its a game after all...

In theory I agree with you. But this dull event was always the opposite of fun. And they really need to add 1-2 new items to cater to different builds. A spectral dragon armor set is an AWESOME idea. How about a dragonscale shield?

From the current looks of things, I won't be stepping in this year.

[JOTMON]

Please correct me if i've missed it, but i didn't have a chance to log on and I cant see it anywhere.

I would have thought this 'epic upgrade' would have been a great opportunity to include an Epic Spectral Dragonscale armour set. (I will leave it to the Sirgogs and Shades to think of some unique stats for it)

Would think that would give ppl something to get excited about.

IMO the lvl 24 loot is exactly what many of us would have guessed they would have. Nothing exciting at all. I wonder if a lot of ppl will actually prefer the lvl 20 cloak because 3% dodge is available in a lot of other places and the DR 10 is not of a lot of value.

I, like a lot of people, were expecting some new items, not simply a very slight incrimental upgrade to the existing. At a minimum, please give us some epic slots on these items.

/Agreed


A spectral Dragon armor I was hoping to see this round, instead of another Mabar disapointment

Spectral dragonscale armour that could have been usefull to rogues/monks or other non-tanking types..
.. something like ..

Level 20 Base item:
Base statistics like other Epic Dragon Armours(Toughness, Seeker +10)
Spectral variant...
Dodge 3%
Ethereal
Ghostly (10% miss chance)


Tiers for armour Upgreading

T1
Cunning (10% hate reduction)
Deception
Dodge 4%
Armour Piercing 5%


T2
Greater Cunning (20% hate reduction)
Improved Deception
Dodge 5%
Armour Piercing 10%

T3
Greater Deception
Armour Piercing 15%
Shadowguard(25% Incorporeal miss chance)
Blue Slot

[Cetus]

Lol...this loot stinks.

At least there won't be as much mabar induced lag since nobody is gonna live out here for this ****.

Our loot designer scores again!

[cforce]

Consider a 1600hp tank against the Dun'Robar matron (EE, hits through tank-level PRR for ~130) - [10 DR] is the difference between dying to the 13th and 14th hit, and that's on a huge HP, huge PRR character.

If you want to use the cloak slot to increase survivability against melee damage, consider the cloak of the bear instead - 9 PRR is usually better when you need it most.

A curious example. 9 PRR is good for about a 6% reduction in physical damage. This should be true regardless of how much PR you already have because of the multiplicative scale of diminishing returns that is used. So, against that hit that hit through tank-level PRR for 130, above, +9 PRR would take off 8 points of damage, 2 less than DR 10.

Not arguing that DR is all that -- it's just that 9 PRR isn't that much better until much bigger hits than that. If you had almost no PRR to begin with, and the EE mobs are hitting you for 200+... yeah, then go for the 9 PRR. But like everything else in the new combat system, diversifying between PRR and DR is often better than trying to max out one number.

[Dolphious]

A curious example. 9 PRR is good for about a 6% reduction in physical damage. This should be true regardless of how much PR you already have because of the multiplicative scale of diminishing returns that is used. So, against that hit that hit through tank-level PRR for 130, above, +9 PRR would take off 8 points of damage, 2 less than DR 10.

Not arguing that DR is all that -- it's just that 9 PRR isn't that much better until much bigger hits than that. If you had almost no PRR to begin with, and the EE mobs are hitting you for 200+... yeah, then go for the 9 PRR. But like everything else in the new combat system, diversifying between PRR and DR is often better than trying to max out one number.

Yeah, but you've got to consider that most people are going to have some DR already. Sure if you're going from 0 to 10, it's not bad, but in most cases we're talking about more like 5 to 10, or 7 to 10.

That said I do think the cloak is overall pretty good. It's another source of ghostly, which is a great (borderling must-have) ability, and 3% dodge, and 10/DR, not just one of them. That's a pretty good defensive cloak overall. Not something I'm going to go re-gearing any of my toons around, but it's respectable.

I'm still bummed that we don't really have anything "new," and that none of the upgrades are really interesting (doesn't mean they're bad, it's just incremental change is sort of dull). Spectral dragon armor would have been a great addition!

[catscan420]

Not to inflate Shades massive ego but considering how small the DDO community is and his contributions to it you could count him a celebrity in that context.

You just did. Good job there.

That doesn't mean, he should expect them to do something for him. That's ridiculous.

[Zorth]

Random Beholders, is this True? If it is I want to fight them, yes!

No new Items, BORING!

I don't play as a monk, so all I have to look forward to, is make my cloak more powerful. Gee. so......yah. It is like haveing the finale fire works display on the 4th of July fail and everyone is waiting to see if it is dud or not, and that pain we all do not want to experience as a group watching in anticipation of what should be AWESOME! but to find out that the hopes we had are for nothing.

I think the Pirate event got canned because Manslayer nerfed IT which is a bad reason to can it, just change the spawns to Non-humanoid.

[noinfo]

Not for me, since I have 4% on my armor, and can make 2%,1% Cannith bracers to replace my 3%, 1% bracers.

No matter what number they picked, some people will be able to fit into their gear easily, but most will have to do the old "inventory shuffle"

Except that since it already has the 2% people will already have that available too them in the same slot without as much fiddling.

As far as recrafting, well with +2 +1 you would be able to actually have a level 20 bracers instead with real slots

[Gavroshe]

You just did. Good job there.

That doesn't mean, he should expect them to do something for him. That's ridiculous.

Shade is like a dragon, Some people want to ally with him, some people want to kill him but the fact remains he is a force. You can choose to take offense at his postings or perhaps his tone, but the fact is he is here giving out information as he finds it and his opinions where he sees fit (of course we could argue all day about the validity of any number of Shade's strong opinions but based on his long time experience they are FAR from groundless)

Appologies for not knowing proper quote mechanics but here is what was sad
"Cordovan hung out with us and said what he was allowed to say: Nothing of note.. Fun to chat with him though.

Feather of sun and other devs wouldnt join my grp. They did some chat channel and said mostly nothing though. Only relevant question i skimed: Feather mentioned maybe making House E challenge ingrds BTA in U16 if he gets in the mood."

He is describing his interaction with the devs (something I never have and thus appreciated) And the FACT IS (assuming this account is accurate) the other devs wouldn't join his group, whether they were busy or what was not discussed, and may not have even been made clear to Shade. But they WOULDN'T JOIN HIS GROUP, that's not an opinion, or a slam, that's what happened and he is telling us. I'm not going to pretend that I don't read a tone in this, but he has every right to it, and with some of the flagrant dev bashing I have seen on the forums this is G rated at worst.

The big difference between Shade and a dragon? You can ignore Shade if you choose to.

-Codence Herkimer of Cannith

[voodoogroves]

Upgrade wraps to 24 for my monk, or possibly a second set to have for TR (one at 20, one at 24)

Obligatory upgrade of one necro-thing for my PM.

Possibly a few cloaks, though not as many as others are suggesting. My rogue, maybe, as it helps with some gearing and eliminates some stone skin clickie/scroll junk.

[Archangel666]

Couple of quick question guys. I was too lazy to update my Lamm client and check myself (I know, I know).

Do the level 20 versions still need 5 Tokens?

Do the level 24 versions need any Tokens?

[MeatSheild]

No new loot = no new grind (or not as big as it once was).

This also means lots of dev work with little to no pay off for it. I don't understand why they would spend the time and money (paying devs) to update this event but not introduce some stuff that players realy want, so bad that they are willing to spend time on it (or TP to decrease thier grind time).

[centuar1963]

Are the deathward and incandescence potions still in barter list? I love those pots! They are reason enough for me to run mabar until my fingers hurt!

hmm, giving your wrist a rest r u?? just kidding...

[Lord_Darquain]

I'm very impressed with the upgrade to the handwraps:

Level 20 +6 Enhancement Bonus, Greater Undead Bane, Brilliance, Light Bringer, Radiant Blast


Level 24 +7 Enhancement Bonus, Greater Undead Bane, Coruscating, Light Bringer, Greater Sunburst, Hidden effect: Epic Weapon - Tier 1


That's another +1 to hit and damage, +.5[d6] base damage + d6 light damage, and the %strike effect becomes and aoe that blinds. That's a net of another 3-10 damage every hit, +5% chance to hit, and the aoe and status effect, plus Greater Sunburst maybe/likely has a higher proc rate and/or does more damage than Radiance Blast. Very nice!