Stunning Fist DC?

[Kinerd]

Saying that if a monk does not have this feat then it is bad is a ridiculous statement.

What else could you possibly take, though? By which I mean: can you come up with a list of 12 feats that doesn't include IS?

[Munkenmo]

What else could you possibly take, though? By which I mean: can you come up with a list of 12 feats that doesn't include IS?

toughness *12

or

monk past life
dodge
twf
itwf
gtwf
weapon finesse
CE
IC Bludgeon
toughness
stunning fist
vorpal fists
improved martial arts.

[Kinerd]

Let me just say that I stare in shock at Weapon Finesse, and PL: Monk is not in much better stead.

[voodoogroves]

Let me just say that I stare in shock at Weapon Finesse, and PL: Monk is not in much better stead.

CE on a dark monk too. I'm not sure I'm a fan, unless you're a tactics race and you're following up with Improved Trip ... and if you're going for tactics, you're going for IS anyway.

There's no PA either. I see two opportunities.

[Potta]

weapon finesse

Only proves my point. The only builds that don't have room for Imp Sunder are bad ones.

[Munkenmo]

he didn't say a good build

it should be painfully obvious what two feats should be swapped for power attack and improved sunder.

in all seriousness though, what would you swap past life monk for?

I could see a point in going human, picking up

cleave, greatcleave and getting overwhelming critical.

but that also means giving up improved martial arts, which combined is 2[w] every swing behind.

[Stormraiser]

toughness *12

or

monk past life
dodge
twf
itwf
gtwf
weapon finesse
CE
IC Bludgeon
toughness
stunning fist
vorpal fists
improved martial arts.

The suck feats

[Dexol]

I do not have exceptional combat mastery yet and I've only done 3/4 of GMoF so far and no other EDs.

-JJ

Swap to LD now, pop 3 points into tactics and twist in now, then swap back. Its so fast and worth it.

[jjflanigan]

Swap to LD now, pop 3 points into tactics and twist in now, then swap back. Its so fast and worth it.

I did that and got the spare hand belt. With a few other tweaks, my DC is up to 58 now and I'm not having any more issues getting things stunned.

Thank you all for the assistance and guidance

-JJ