Best Outfit for a Dex Based Rogue

[T.T]

Hi!

The breakdown for my future 2nd life Dex Based Rogue will be:

DEX 20 +5 lvl up, +3 Tome, +2 Halfling Enh, +3 Rogue Enh, +8 Item, +3 Insight Item, +6 Shadowdancer +2 Ship Buff + 2 Pot = 54 -> dex bonus = 22

Since i´ve never done a Dex based toon, I am kind of lost with the gear... The only outfit that comes in my mind is a ML 14 White Dragonscales Robe (+5 protection +4 shield + heavy fort).

Any other?

Thanks in advance! =)

[voodoogroves]

Frozen Tunic is pretty hot, as is the Black Dragonscale. Both work well into epics.

[T.T]

Frozen Tunic is pretty hot, as is the Black Dragonscale. Both work well into epics.

I already have a pair of Envenomed Blades, that comes with the 10% armor piercing. That´s the why I did not put the Black Dragonscale in trial. =)

I will check the Frozen out. Ty!

Most people I see around in Epic stuff are wearing the Parasitic Breastplate. http://ddowiki.com/page/Parasitic_Breastplate

Good AC, classified as Light Armor instead of Medium, and you can add a Displacement Guard.

It is a great armor, indeed.

But the max Maximum Dexterity Bonus for this armor is 9! Even if I spend 2 feats (dodge and mobility), it stills caping my DX bonus a lot!

[AZgreentea]

Most people I see around in Epic stuff are wearing the Parasitic Breastplate. http://ddowiki.com/page/Parasitic_Breastplate

Good AC, classified as Light Armor instead of Medium, and you can add a Displacement Guard.

[voodoogroves]

Most people I see around in Epic stuff are wearing the Parasitic Breastplate. http://ddowiki.com/page/Parasitic_Breastplate

Good AC, classified as Light Armor instead of Medium, and you can add a Displacement Guard.

Going to limit his DEX I think; I may swap it in when the Displacement is more useful - maybe when soloing. When in a group I'd be diplo-dumping aggro anyway.

DT works as well - Earthen Guard, etc.

[AZgreentea]

Going to limit his DEX I think; I may swap it in when the Displacement is more useful - maybe when soloing. When in a group I'd be diplo-dumping aggro anyway.

DT works as well - Earthen Guard, etc.

It would, but Dex Bonus of 9 is pretty good. Plus he would get the stacking +3 Primal bonus to AC and the benefit of breastplate level AC. Its a little early for me to do the math (coffee is still brewing) but my rough math says it comes out pretty close between this and the Frozen Tunic.

[Thrudh]

Epic Duelist Leathers from Crystal Cove are awesome for a Dex-based evasion character as well. Probably won't see Crystal Cove come back until 2013 though

[LOOON375]

If you have a female toon, I have to go with the Druid's leather armor from the new content.

The appearance on a female toon makes it very viable in all content Arrrr. My female, elf rogue appears to be wearing a full body stocking.

[Ape_Man]

Red Dragon leather. With lilthe and a mobility item the MDB is 23.

[Thrudh]

Red Dragon leather. With lilthe and a mobility item the MDB is 23.

Epic Duelist Leathers is base MDB 22 (Mobility is on the leathers themselves). With Lithe it goes to MDB 28.

[Ape_Man]

Epic Duelist Leathers is base MDB 22 (Mobility is on the leathers themselves). With Lithe it goes to MDB 28.

Which is pointless.

[Thrudh]

Which is pointless.

Or you could skip Lithe and a mobility item and still have a 22 MDB. Plus the duelist leather's themselves give you 4% dodge. With the red dragon armor, you'll need to wear a 4% dodge item somewhere else.

All this is assuming that an evasion light-armor character is trying to get his or her Dodge up pretty high.

If that's not a goal, then yes, red dragonhide armor is probably the best light armor.

[Tid12]

Cormyrian red dragon for me. I'm planning that for my Dex rogue as well.

[Vormaerin]

And here I thought the answer as "a straitjacket" until they recovered and accepted that Str or Int based is the way to go :P

Anyway, its really not about Dex. Any armor is going to cover your Dex if you twist in Lithe. Even parasitic will cover a 40 Dex with Lithe and Mobility.

The real question is how much Dodge % you expect to have.

I know your example has a 50ish Dex, but some of that stuff is questionable. Where are you getting a +8 Dex item and +3 insight dex that isn't armor? The trinket? And why would you spend half your destiny points on +6 Dex? Surely you can get more from other things?

[T.T]

And here I thought the answer as "a straitjacket" until they recovered and accepted that Str or Int based is the way to go :P

I am coming from a Barbarian and noticed that "Damage is the King". Tied STR to character.

Using a pair of weapons that uses DEX instead STR for damage calculation, I can´t see why invest in STR or INT.

The real question is how much Dodge % you expect to have.

The sky´s the limit! =P

(...) The trinket?

Isn´t there itens (belts, bracers, trinkets) with those stats in the MoTU? Miscalculated here... mine fault. =(

And why would you spend half your destiny points on +6 Dex? Surely you can get more from other things?

A Barbarian can spend with STR, why can´t I do it with DEX?

More DEX, more damage output in the end.

=)

[Vormaerin]

I am coming from a Barbarian and noticed that "Damage is the King". Tied STR to character.

Using a pair of weapons that uses DEX instead STR for damage calculation, I can´t see why invest in STR or INT.

Isn´t there itens (belts, bracers, trinkets) with those stats in the MoTU? Miscalculated here... mine fault. =(



A Barbarian can spend with STR, why can´t I do it with DEX?

More DEX, more damage output in the end.

=)

Well, if you want to be limited to the two or three weapons that allow dex for damage, sure. There's Midnight Greetings, a couple quarterstaves, and maybe one other named weapon? Could be forgetting something.

Anyway, that's too restrictive for me.


Yes, +8 Dex and +3 Insightful Dex items exist. But they mainly take the armor slot, so if you are assuming one, you don't have a lot of choice about your armor.

[T.T]

(...) Could be forgetting something.

Just forgetting THE weapon that made me create a Dex based guy. =)

Here it is:

Envenomed Blade and Epic Envenomed Blade

Ty for helping, ppl!

[Todkaninchen]

Just forgetting THE weapon that made me create a Dex based guy. =)

Here it is:

Envenomed Blade and Epic Envenomed Blade

Ty for helping, ppl!

http://ddowiki.com/page/Treason_(weapon)

Treason as well. Upgraded, it's Armor piercing 15% and carries deception. I know deception and improved deception seem to double up a bit on effect, I wonder if Armor piercing 10% (from Envenomed blade) and Armor Piercing 15% might do something similar?

Also, with rumors about Gianthold going epic soon, and Epic Treason might also fit your bill, while carrying enough differences to complement the Envenomed Blade, Midnight Greetings, or others.

Oh, and to the guys questioning the idea of a DEX rogue... With weapons like Treason and Envenomed Blade, it becomes possible to essentially invest in only two attributes on a character--like a Barbarian with STR and CON--except--in the case of a Rogue, you're now using the same attribute for Attack/Damage/Evasion/Armor Class/a few rogue skills instead of--on a Barbarian--only using STR for Attack/Damage. With a rogue, this might even make for even greater DPS if he can mitigate his aggro because he can get his primary damage producing attribute about as high without a time limit and stack sneak attack damage on with it all while having the possibility of a reasonable defense as well.

Throw crippling strike and opportunist feats in there and you're just raising how fast you can do damage and--on things you're not killing in one or two hits--peeling back enemy's chance to do you damage as well without needing specific weapons to do so.

If he can find a way to throw a high dodge boost in there, a 20% or better blur item, and other "instant, no damage at all, miss chances", he might just have an interesting and very survivable character.

At least until he gets held or otherwise helpless. *grin*

[Vormaerin]

Envenomed Blade and Epic Envenomed Blade

Ty for helping, ppl!

Oh yeah, forgot its Str or Dex. I use it off hand sometimes on my rogue. Its interesting, but I really want something that's going to boost my damage. Which means enabling sneak attack more than anything else. So radiance, greater sirocco, or the like.

The paralyzing is nice for CC, but since it doesn't enable sneak attacks its not a primary weapon IMHO.

[RandomKeypress]

If you want +8 norm and +3 insight dex, you may want Hide of the Gorstro and a planar conflux at lev 24 plus. It's not bad gear and pretty easy for rogues to farm.