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    Default Scammers putting junk on the AH.

    Quest items on the Auction house that are useless,( those that should Drop on quest completion, yet do not for some reason are still allowed to be kept?, yet are for sale by scammers in the AH for a lot of plat?

    The game allows this even though they say this is against the rules and if caught you will be banned.

    Is this enforced?
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    Lol ummm........NO
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    I have seen this sort of thing as long as I have played. It must work on someone because folks keep spending the auction fee. I doubt Turbine gives it a second thought.

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    Can you give an example of a useless item that can be sold on the AH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastikator View Post
    Can you give an example of a useless item that can be sold on the AH?
    Aspect Crystal from Dreaming Dark. Seen that on the AH quite a bit. And I wouldn't be surprised if the various books you get in quests (Valak's Mausoleum, Rainbow in the Dark, Let Sleeping Dust Lie, etc.) can be auctioned, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastikator View Post
    Can you give an example of a useless item that can be sold on the AH?
    There's lots of examples, really...

    The "book" from Delara's Pt II.
    The Black Moon Scroll from Threnal
    The Pit Start Up Guide.
    Any of the brick a brac in the Deposit Boxes in the Sharn Chain quest where you raid the bank.

    And so on, and so forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    The Pit Start Up Guide.
    This one isn't bugged. You get it outside of the quest. And I recommend everyone to read it at least once. There is a few funny things here and there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nibel View Post
    This one isn't bugged. You get it outside of the quest. And I recommend everyone to read it at least once. There is a few funny things here and there.
    Never said it was bugged - I was answering the question about useless items that can be sold on the AH. I had a guildie who made 35k selling one on the AH, and it remains hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastikator View Post
    Can you give an example of a useless item that can be sold on the AH?
    Bloodstones that are actually gems as opposed to THE Bloodstone, a trinket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorth View Post
    Quest items on the Auction house that are useless,( those that should Drop on quest completion, yet do not for some reason are still allowed to be kept?, yet are for sale by scammers in the AH for a lot of plat?

    The game allows this even though they say this is against the rules and if caught you will be banned.

    Is this enforced?
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    A scam is when someone tricks you into paying for something. I don't see how it's possible for anyone to trick you into buying this.

    Chances are, they're not trying to scam people, they're using the auction house as storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachski View Post
    A scam is when someone tricks you into paying for something. I don't see how it's possible for anyone to trick you into buying this.

    Chances are, they're not trying to scam people, they're using the auction house as storage.
    Storage??? Why storage? These items are generally completely useless, bugged (they are supposed to disappear after quest completion) and really shouldn't even be in the game in the first place. The only items of this nature that have a use are the ones with instructions written on them (and generally only need to be read once, if at all). Virtually all of these items could be eliminated from the game and turned into DM text, except maybe the guide to The Pit, but who runs that anyway.

    Okay, I guess there are some people out there too shy to use the advice channel to ask "Do I need this Gilded Scroll Case?" And maybe they are the schmucks putting it on AH as "storage." But honestly, if it were that important to you, why wouldn't you just ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samthedagger View Post
    Okay, I guess there are some people out there too shy to use the advice channel to ask "Do I need this Gilded Scroll Case?" And maybe they are the schmucks putting it on AH as "storage." But honestly, if it were that important to you, why wouldn't you just ask?
    I've done this. Sorry, not scamming... legit didn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachski View Post
    A scam is when someone tricks you into paying for something. I don't see how it's possible for anyone to trick you into buying this.

    Chances are, they're not trying to scam people, they're using the auction house as storage.
    This.

    If someone puts something useless on the AH and an idiot buys it then good for them.

    When you bid on something it is your responisbility to understand what you are bidding on and decide if the price is fair or not.

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    Sounds like gold sellers transferring gold too, possibly :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by locus View Post
    Sounds like gold sellers transferring gold too, possibly :/
    This is FAR more likely a situation. Spend $5 online, receive instructions to put up a Gilded Scroll Case on the AH for 7m plat, receive 5m plat in return after AH fee. Give the Chinese and the Russians your credit card number!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samthedagger View Post
    This is FAR more likely a situation. Spend $5 online, receive instructions to put up a Gilded Scroll Case on the AH for 7m plat, receive 5m plat in return after AH fee. Give the Chinese and the Russians your credit card number!
    I don't think it is likely at all.

    Why would the seller eat 2 mil plat when they could trade character to character and not lose 1 plat?

    Why would anyone want a 5 mil plat piece of mail they can't open and will expire since the character limit is less than 5 mil?

    Finally, why would anyone commit the account bannable offence of buying plat from a third party when they can buy turbine codes and raid timer bypasses and creature companions and sell those to other players for plat legally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samthedagger View Post
    This is FAR more likely a situation. Spend $5 online, receive instructions to put up a Gilded Scroll Case on the AH for 7m plat, receive 5m plat in return after AH fee. Give the Chinese and the Russians your credit card number!
    Max AH price is 2M though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samthedagger View Post
    This is FAR more likely a situation. Spend $5 online, receive instructions to put up a Gilded Scroll Case on the AH for 7m plat, receive 5m plat in return after AH fee. Give the Chinese and the Russians [and the Americans] your credit card number!
    ...those might have slipped your mind there for a second...
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    If you have a lot of plat, chances are you know better than to buy an aspect crystal or pit restart guide. If not, well... A fool and his money are soon parted.
    A better example would've been when "The Bloodstone" was the "Bloodstone" and there was(is?) a vendor trash gem of the same name. Scammers would post the trash gem for a bazilion plat and anyone who didn't simply mouse over the "Bloodstone" wouldn't know the difference. Weather or not there were ever direct consequences by Turbine I don't know, but the issue was dealt with by Turbine renaming it to "The Bloodstone."

    Just like in RL, scams usually just victimize those more eager to pay plat than due diligence.

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