To all those 1k hp meat sacks with 0 heal amp...

[enearh]

/rant on

please get (at least) PDK gloves (soooo hard to get, I know...)

please use ship shrine (if you die, you lose your ship buffs, I know...)

please (human and half elf) get some heal amp enhancment (too tight on APs, I know...)



and I am not talking about WF melees, because those few out there acctually invest in heal amp/healer's friend

/rant off

[Yalina]

/rant on

please get (at least) PDK gloves (soooo hard to get, I know...)

please use ship shrine (if you die, you lose your ship buffs, I know...)

please (human and half elf) get some heal amp enhancment (too tight on APs, I know...)



and I am not talking about WF melees, because those few out there acctually invest in heal amp/healer's friend

/rant off

please get (at least) a devotion item (soooo hard to get, I know...)

please get some healing enhancment (too tight on APs, I know...)

please spend some AP on scroll and wand mastery...

[redspecter23]

please get (at least) a devotion item (soooo hard to get, I know...)

please get some healing enhancment (too tight on APs, I know...)

please spend some AP on scroll and wand mastery...

Please get some Silver Flame pots.

Please slot an int and cha item so you can actually use them.

Please bring some cakes for when you forget either of the above suggestions.

[9Crows]

please get (at least) a devotion item (soooo hard to get, I know...)

please get some healing enhancment (too tight on APs, I know...)

please spend some AP on scroll and wand mastery...

while the tone of thread is snarky so deserves a snarky responce...the op states things that helps a toon be self sufficient and something alot of melees dont slot ... while this post states things most healers already slot and and instead of promoting an attitude of self reliance instead states my red bar is someone elses problem...

that being said most people who read/post on forums already slot heal amp on toons when they can so the thread is kinda pointless...other than trollbait

[taurean430]

I do not have faith that this thread will end well...

[WielderofGigantus]

Please get some Silver Flame pots.

But that involves doing those necropolis quests, and no one wants to do those...

[Miow]

I do not have faith that this thread will end well...

that's what i'm thinking it's not a good one

[Rubiconn]

DDO Group based game but if you cant get through a quest without totally leaning on a healer then you need to reevaluate your build. Yes having 1000+ hp is great but it isnt easy getting you to full health. If you want the healer to carry scrolls and dedicate their build to support your awesome HP tank then you better fork over the 1000's of plat and take every pot you can get and hand it over as well. I dont have a high level healer myself but my better half does and she appreciates it when people help support themselves by donating to the cause. I have often had to fork over my plat so she can by heal scrolls for a pug raid or high level run.


Healers shouldnt worry about asking for donations and squishy people who take a lot of damage shouldnt be shy about donating. Its through cooperation that we move forward.

[dynahawk]

Lets all agree that with the inflated HP with ED's everyone needs to work on making those heals hit in a SP friendly way.

Devotion + healing amp + AP's is everyone's responsibilities in today's game.

[Dhalgren]

please get (at least) a devotion item (soooo hard to get, I know...)

please get some healing enhancment (too tight on APs, I know...)

please spend some AP on scroll and wand mastery...

/facepalm

[grayham]

Can we close this thread please? Or maybe re-write the OP with a helpful guide on the value of healing amp and sources and where to get it, like here.....

[redspecter23]

Lets all agree that with the inflated HP with ED's everyone needs to work on making those heals hit in a SP friendly way.

Devotion + healing amp + AP's is everyone's responsibilities in a today's game.

I'll take it a step further and say that healing and healing amp are only a small part of a defensive package that can contain high saves, AC, DR, PRR, dodge, twitch skills and a variety of special abilities that can all increase your survivability while keeping resource use down.

[wax_on_wax_off]

I've given up on HP. I regularly run with no toughness item or greater false life item just to have freezing ice from Frozen Tunic (the alternative setup at least has toughness from Caparison). Despite missing these 2 items I still have 500 to 700 HP depending on buffs which is plenty for everything (except raid tanking) considering that I have:

• ample heal amp (260%)
• 100% no swap heal scrolls
• silver flame pots
• healing spring (usually)
• moderate AC
• high saves
• evasion
• decent dodge
• incorporeality (10% currently, thinking about going to 25%)
• displacement scrolls
• sprint boost
• 30 points resists
• level 10 blur wand
• 4*deathward clicky
• 14+ PRR (working on this)
• +10% base move speed, sprint boost I, CL:15 haste clicky (5/day)

There are so many better things than HP.

[psykopeta]

please get (at least) a devotion item (soooo hard to get, I know...)

please get some healing enhancment (too tight on APs, I know...)

please spend some AP on scroll and wand mastery...

1 divine uses to do it, for a self-surviving reason or for a group one

how many melee (cause casters are clever u know) players NEVER think about their hp? cause they use to carry a hire that's fastly pwned or even lets u die

1k hp meat toon is like a squishy one, both enjoy dying, but i enjoy more saving my sp for more useful things, i pug always, its a funny way to do things (and tr'ing with the gear u get by levelling, not farming like mad for 1 **** that will be dumped in next expansion) and always toss a cure light wounds to players for seeing who's doing it wrong

less than 30 hp healed means that im not gonna heal u, just raise u, clever use of sp

[Yalina]

Healing amp is good.

A divine who can heal well is good also.

On Cannith, EN/EH lot of times people are just using hirelings, and as you can learn it from other topics, noone pugs EE here. I just don't understand where did this rant of the OP come... There are a few quests and one raid you need a well geared tank, but that's all... I was in eLOB before where a ranger tanked the LOB, did EE VoN 5-6, Chrono etc., I just don't see where this "you don't have healing amp, we are gonna wiiiipe" feeling comes... Yes, I was in EE DQ1, where i went frenzy-death frenzy on my barb, drank 1 SF pot, then another one, still 0 heals from the fvs who continueed to dot mobs, I stopped attack, he pulled aggro and died... and rage quit'ed. Then a fvs who was able to heal when needed came and was a piece of cake from that point.

And yes, I have a divine, in her 3rd cleric life, and I had never any problem to heal people. I have the healing enhancements fully taken. I know when to hit and dot mobs and when to go to nanny mode - even I don't like to babysit those meatballs. If that melee can't remove disease, curse etc., block or just move away from mobs when he is on low hp, and I'm not close enough to heal him, I just won't group with him anymore.

[taurean430]

I've given up on HP. I regularly run with no toughness item or greater false life item just to have freezing ice from Frozen Tunic (the alternative setup at least has toughness from Caparison). Despite missing these 2 items I still have 500 to 700 HP depending on buffs which is plenty for everything (except raid tanking) considering that I have:

• ample heal amp (260%)
• 100% no swap heal scrolls
• silver flame pots
• healing spring (usually)
• moderate AC
• high saves
• evasion
• decent dodge
• incorporeality (10% currently, thinking about going to 25%)
• displacement scrolls
• sprint boost
• 30 points resists
• level 10 blur wand
• 4*deathward clicky
• 14+ PRR (working on this)
• +10% base move speed, sprint boost I, CL:15 haste clicky (5/day)

There are so many better things than HP.

And as a player who runs divines let me just say that he's spectacular to have in party. I waste mana on him to remind him I'm there. He doesn't ever need me for anything at all...

[PNellesen]

I do not have faith that this thread will end well...

What do you mean? It started WONDERFULLY! How could it possibly go downhill?

[Kennyburns]

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Healing 422 on scrolls having sf pots and 1020 hp i just dont think its enough!
Even with stuns and 10% incorporeal and Decent AC!

[sandypaws]

I don't really have much of a problem with 1k hp meatbags who don't have healing amp.

The problem is when they're 1k hp meatbags with low to moderate damage mitigation who decide they should be tank, and either intimidate or insist on a really super-high threatgen stance. Then it gets annoying.

I swear, if I see one of them using intolerant blow, I'm going to just let him die until his uses are up <.<.

[Zorth]

30 with Gloves, 10 with Ship, 5 with past life Paly.

over 1000 hp.