Failed to sorc solo a quest 1 level below me

[CircleK]

I got on my warforged sorc and he's level 18, so I thought about attempting ritual sacrifice on hard, which should be a very easy task. I died. It was an easy quest, with only gnolls and the occasional elemental, 1 level below me. I was a sorcerer. With selfheals. And I died. I simply ran out of sp. Can anyone tell me good ways to conserve sp and spend less sp on reconstruct and more on acid rain? Because, there were a myriad of moments where I came to 24 hp and I was spamming reconstruct and took a while to actually kill everything. How can I stop those moments?

[Hobgoblin]

I got on my warforged sorc and he's level 18, so I thought about attempting ritual sacrifice on hard, which should be a very easy task. I died. It was an easy quest, with only gnolls and the occasional elemental, 1 level below me. I was a sorcerer. With selfheals. And I died. I simply ran out of sp. Can anyone tell me good ways to conserve sp and spend less sp on reconstruct and more on acid rain? Because, there were a myriad of moments where I came to 24 hp and I was spamming reconstruct and took a while to actually kill everything. How can I stop those moments?

2 things. +

1: scrolls
use recon(the spell) as an oh $%$# moment (just to get you out of a jam) and use scrolls for the rest of it

2: no acid rain.
in this particular quest with few shrines acid rains is not as usefull.

3: use your slas -
Fire savant- fire ball maxed/emp/heightened all for 8/10 sp? (cant remember the cost of the top of my head, been a while since i played a fire sorc around capish) drawback - devils/orthons are immune to this
Earth - see above but nothing in the quest is immune.
air - good single target, not as good on groups.
cold - see above

4: i cant count.
See above.

5: I just wanted a 5 in here.

hope that helps
hob

[Llewndyn]

2 things. +

1: scrolls
use recon(the spell) as an oh $%$# moment (just to get you out of a jam) and use scrolls for the rest of it

2: no acid rain.
in this particular quest with few shrines acid rains is not as usefull.

3: use your slas -
Fire savant- fire ball maxed/emp/heightened all for 8/10 sp? (cant remember the cost of the top of my head, been a while since i played a fire sorc around capish) drawback - devils/orthons are immune to this
Earth - see above but nothing in the quest is immune.
air - good single target, not as good on groups.
cold - see above

4: i cant count.
See above.

5: I just wanted a 5 in here.

hope that helps
hob

This is almost verbatim what was in my head, except number 3 was more about squirrel migratory patterns. The only thing I have to add is the heavy use of web/dancing ball/ mass suggestion if you are soloing, let them beat eachother up so you don't have to (haven't made a WF caster, so take this with the proverbial grain but on my fleshy gimp casters (and that would be all of them) this is a must have for soloing anything since your average mob usually does better DPS (that's damage per second (I love nested parenthesis (No I don't)) for the uninitiated) than I do)... that is how I usually save SP and it's funny to watch too.

I can't remember if on hard they will follow you throughout the dungeon but going invis might work too... and if all else fails instead of acid rain where they run through it and maybe take 250 damage I would hit up a cloudkill and run in circles like a moron, but that's more because I AM a moron and that's how I live my life.

[Lonnbeimnech]

Invis and run past everything, kill only the enemies you have to kill.

[Shadow7375]

Invis and run past everything, kill only the enemies you have to kill.

that what i do in almost every quest where this is possible .. only kill what needs to be killed.

[MRMechMan]

When one guildie failed an elite dq2 on a capped fvs while somewhat inebriated, another refered to DQ2 as the "shift sobriety test"

ie:

"Excuse me ma'am, we're gonna need you to step outside the vehicle and hold down the shift key in this raid for a few seconds, and occasionally click divine punishment."

Ah, you registered a .03, sorry for the inconvenience, you can be on your way.

Pump your DR as much as you can (she hits for ~20-28 on normal maybe, so going from 15 to 20 DR literally halves the damage incoming from her, either a DP clickie or an axeblock item will be VERY noticable), and learn to chase her when she ports out to maintain the DOT. Also, time your recons to when she is not swinging. Don't run away from her. She will still often hit your unless you have haste AND some other speed boost (sprint or monk lvls). She used to be kitable but they changed her hit range; it is doable but if you lag at all you will take a big hit or 10.

Her having a 100% chance to hit you for a very managable 6-15x5-10 damage is much preferable to a 50-75% chance of 6-15x20-25 damage. That is what kills people. Don't panic. She ALWAYS appears in the center, so if she ports off the ledge you were DOTing her on, turn to the center. If she isn;t there, check the other 3 possible ledges. Avoid going to the center. Often her change of location is accompanied by a DM voice; but sometimes it is not.

Even epic (old epic, not this n/h/e ****) was soloable with enough DR gear and sp/hp procs. The main issue was not even the queen (with 27 leviks and 20 DOD proc and 20% old shieldmastery she could barely pass DR) but the efreets or getting crippled; or even more often getting telekinesised into the lava. With 41+ reflex the cometfalls didn't really matter either; but luckily you don't have to worry about most of that stuff on normal/hard/elite .

[CircleK]

The shield I have is not crafted. the +5 spiritcraft one? I looted that. I crafted myself a dagger of axeblock to go with my shield for when I'm blocking. I still died. It has 15% arcane spell failure. I will also change my alignment to chaotic neutral.

[Ancient]

The shield I have is not crafted. the +5 spiritcraft one? I looted that. I crafted myself a dagger of axeblock to go with my shield for when I'm blocking. I still died. It has 15% arcane spell failure. I will also change my alignment to chaotic neutral.

Ok, more detail....

• Did you make it to fight the queen?
• Did you land a dot on the queen?
• Did you land a tripple stack on the queen?
• Did you die in a sudden burst, or did you lose a slow war of attrition?
• How many hp do you have? Can we get a yourddo link?
• Were you trying to clear trash or just focus on the queen?
• When you died, did you check the combat log to see if you were taking full damage? One detail that no one mentioned is that sometimes when you cast an offensive spell you come out of shield block and need to quickly let up/start again...

[CircleK]

Ok, more detail....

• Did you make it to fight the queen?
• Did you land a dot on the queen?
• Did you land a tripple stack on the queen?
• Did you die in a sudden burst, or did you lose a slow war of attrition?
• How many hp do you have? Can we get a yourddo link?
• Were you trying to clear trash or just focus on the queen?
• When you died, did you check the combat log to see if you were taking full damage? One detail that no one mentioned is that sometimes when you cast an offensive spell you come out of shield block and need to quickly let up/start again...

I made it to the queen fight, I landed a DoT on the queen, I did not land a triple stack, I died in about 2-3 bursts. I am lawful good, so i was taking full damage from pure evil, true chaos, anarchic, unholy, and of course her full slashing dmg because she killed me while I was casting a spell. Also, gnolls attacked me.

[CircleK]

Once again, can anyone recommend good gloves, and rings and docent for a level 18 earth savant?

[Jeromio]

Once again, can anyone recommend good gloves, and rings and docent for a level 18 earth savant?

I'll just give you an example of what I wear:
My main (currently sorceror lvl 18) uses Bramble-Casters as gloves (10 DR against piercing damage), one ring is a crafted Greater Necromancy with large guild slot (160 extra SP), other ring is +6 charisma (I use a Napkin plus Minos so no other place available for charisma) and my docent is crafted with superior stability (requires True Neutral alignment), life shield and have a medium guild slot that I use for extra HP.

It's a multi-TR character in process that will end up as a FVS evoker, so the above is just some of my current TR gear while levelling.

I'm not sure, but I think it might be useful for you to have an item with greater conjuration focus, as you're an earth savant... I usually go with water myself at lvl 18, and take fire before that... so I'm mostly dealing with evocation.

A good docent for use against Lailat, and has been briefly mentioned before in the thread, is DOD (Docent of Defiance: http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Ite...spx?itemID=785). Sometimes when you get hit, it will activate an additional 20 DR. Because you get hit so often in this fight, it will trigger a lot. However, it can be a little bit of a pain to get hold of this docent, because you might have to farm Cursed Crypt (Necro 3) a lot to get it. I've done about 50 runs and not seen it yet.

[Ancient]

Good start. In your combat log, how much (approximation) was she hitting you for each swing and how much damage were you reducing it by?

[CircleK]

I think she was hitting me, including the unholy, anarchic etc, for about 20 pts of dmg per hit. That was when I was shield blocking. I heard someone say that even though the shield says DR 11, it would block like 18 pts of dmg. Is that true?

[Ancient]

I think she was hitting me, including the unholy, anarchic etc, for about 20 pts of dmg per hit. That was when I was shield blocking. I heard someone say that even though the shield says DR 11, it would block like 18 pts of dmg. Is that true?

20 points of damage per hit will take a level 18 down pretty fast when she has six arms to hit you with.

Your combat log will tell you what amount of damage reduction happened. I took a stroll outside eveningstar and a drow archer was kind enough to demonstrate (briefly).

(Combat): Drow Archer hit you but did no damage; 13 points of damage were blocked by Silver damage reduction.
(Combat): Drow Archer hit you but did no damage; 17 points of damage were blocked by Silver damage reduction.

On this next line, I stopped blocking (but I still have FVS capstone DR) so you could see what it looks like when some amount of damage gets through:

(Combat): Drow Archer hit you for a total of 2 points of pierce damage after 10 were blocked by Silver damage
reduction.

If your combat lines don't look like that then you aren't shield blocking for some reason. It might be that you need to quickly let up and repress the shift key... or who know.

Inside your inventory, if you drop down the details on your weapons... it displays the number for your DR and blocking DR.

[FestusHood]

I think she was hitting me, including the unholy, anarchic etc, for about 20 pts of dmg per hit. That was when I was shield blocking. I heard someone say that even though the shield says DR 11, it would block like 18 pts of dmg. Is that true?

I did in fact try doing this last night with my 18 cleric. His shield i believe has a stated dr rating of 9? In the combat log it said i was blocking 19 points of damage.

After 8-10 failed attempts at this i did finally get it done, on normal, but just barely. I can't even imagine doing it on an arcane. My cleric doesn't have the offensive fire power that your caster does, but he's got a lot of defensive advantages. He wears Cavalry full plate, and uses a tower shield, with no disadvantages from it. The archers were missing me 50% or more of the time, and i'm guessing that isn't the case with you.

I'm neutral good, so i take some of the extra alighment damage, but not all.

I don't mean to scare you, but if you haven't gotten her down to near death yet, she actually goes into some kind of psycho mode at about 10% health, and things get a lot worse. The last 5 failures i had occurred during this part, even though i didn't have that much trouble getting to this point. It's pretty scary when you have the queen, 3 or 4 efreets, 5 archers, and the blades all hitting you at the same time. My Tharak bracers broke every time i tried this, and sometimes other equipment too.

Still offering to run this with you sometime, it seems like we could make a decent team for it. Either we could take turns nuking, blocking the queen, depending on who has aggro, or you could just be on trash duty, and i could concentrate on the queen.

I pretty much gave up on killing any of the archers, as when the stuff hit the fan, i wouldn't have time to kill the respawns anyway, so why even mess with it. I've heard that cloudkill on the archers works well, and since you are an earth savant, you may want to try that.

For the record on the successful run i finally had, i used 5 major mnemonic potions. Assuming a round is defined by how many times she leaves the center, and comes back, I believe this happened about 7 times.

[CircleK]

yeah I know I was blocking, but she hits me when I'm casting.

And for the third time, what are good rings, gloves, and a docent for a level 18 earth savant?

[Ancient]

yeah I know I was blocking, but she hits me when I'm casting.

And for the third time, what are good rings, gloves, and a docent for a level 18 earth savant?

It depends on your other gear, if you can get me a server name/character name then I can look at yourddo and make recommendations based on your other gear.

[Ancient]

The good news is that as you get practice, it gets easier and you get to the point where you won't use any potions. Good job to the both of you and gratz!

BTW, if you don't want to post your character name in the forum, you can PM it to me.

[CircleK]

after 9 attempts I finaly completed it. sadly no torc or brambles. I didn't use any pots, I ended with about 500 sp.

How is docent of defiance good at all in the raid??? It provides energy resistance, which you don't see in the fight against lailat. And what do you mean, activate? Isn't it a passive docent? I personally never went for DoD because to me, it is useless and you can get better energy resists with the spell.

[knockcocker]

after 9 attempts I finaly completed it. sadly no torc or brambles. I didn't use any pots, I ended with about 500 sp.

How is docent of defiance good at all in the raid??? It provides energy resistance, which you don't see in the fight against lailat. And what do you mean, activate? Isn't it a passive docent? I personally never went for DoD because to me, it is useless and you can get better energy resists with the spell.

Hidden effect. Has a chance to proc DR 20/- (but with a crippled effect)