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    Hi I've recently played my way back to epic levels with a wizard/artificer build and noticed that when I reentered my destiny (Fatesinger) only my wizard spells gained caster levels.

    Now the question is; is the absence of Artificer caster level gain in Fatesinger intended? Or is it an caster multi-class bug?

    Artificers aren't arcane per see in pnp and Fatesinger does state 'gain +1 effective Arcane caster level' while Draconic and Magister says '+1 to wizard, sorcerer, bard and artificer caster levels if have any levels in the class'.

    But in ddo Artificers does start in the Arcane sphere (so seems to be considered as such even if infusions don't have arcane spell failure) so it seems strange that the spheres only martial-arcane mix destiny doesn't benefit Artificers casting ability.

    Any pure artificer that got Fatesinger destiny that can confirm that this is how it is and not just a double caster destiny bug?

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    The only thing I am aware of is that first Fatesinger innate ability (Fatesinger's Repertoire) does not actually grant +1 arcane caster level even though the description says it does.

    What you are experiencing seems to be a different thing. Looking at the descriptions of other arcane EDs, this is probably WAI :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post
    The only thing I am aware of is that first Fatesinger innate ability (Fatesinger's Repertoire) does not actually grant +1 arcane caster level even though the description says it does.

    What you are experiencing seems to be a different thing. Looking at the descriptions of other arcane EDs, this is probably WAI :/
    Which is why Artificers exit the Arcane sphere as quickly as possible Considering the flexibility with which you can build an Artificer, it would have made more sense to let them choose any destiny as their first. That would have been a very small concession for not providing a suitable destiny in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post
    ...Looking at the descriptions of other arcane EDs, this is probably WAI :/
    If not, the descriptions can always be changed to fix it

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post
    What you are experiencing seems to be a different thing.
    yeah, since I'm gaining caster levels for wizard, the question is if it's just Fatesinger that don't allow for Artificer caster level gain or if Epic destinies in general doesn't allow you to gain caster levels in multiple classes.

    edit; I'll see when I got enough xp for a level in magister.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pantronic View Post
    Which is why Artificers exit the Arcane sphere as quickly as possible
    I've actually got a pure artificer as well (level 16), but I'm waiting with that one until the Artificer destiny is released, since otherwise I'd have to replay the exact same destiny's on 2 characters, which isn't why I got 2 characters in the first place ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by knockcocker View Post
    If not, the descriptions can always be changed to fix it
    Something along the line of fatesingers +1 to arcane caster levels does not work with handwraps?
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    small update, I've gained another level of Fatesinger and I'm now gaining half caster levels for artificer and full caster levels for wizard.

    So it seems Artificers count as arcane in DDO, now I just have to figure out why I only gain half caster levels.

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    half caster level? so you mean when you cast, say, Resist Energy: Fire, and assuming you were a pure arti, it lasts for 20:30 instead of 20 minutes without destiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDOGoz View Post
    half caster level? so you mean when you cast, say, Resist Energy: Fire, and assuming you were a pure arti, it lasts for 20:30 instead of 20 minutes without destiny?
    Well almost, but I only full caster levels. So I guess I should have said that I gain Artificer caster levels every other Fatesinger level and Wizard caster levels every Fatesinger level.

    Every time I log on the hot-bar spells also list duration as if I was a level one caster (of both wizard and artificer), but that is purely a visual bug that corrects itself as soon as I cast a spell.

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