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    Default Best end-game armor for rogues

    Can anyone share with me which end-game armor is the best for rogues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunlee123 View Post
    Can anyone share with me which end-game armor is the best for rogues?
    Don't think there is a BEST, but here is what I use:

    1. Epic Utility Vest for those times you need the extra +5 to DD. Also not bad armor. Usually now I don't bother what with my epic Kundark Gog's, but I still carry it just in case.

    2. Recently I got the Hide of the Goristro from Trial in the Demoweb and like it a lot.

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    Redscale(both kinds).
    hehe maybe. a bit hard to get though. I have ran eVon6 about 12-13 times (a very modest amount, I know - got the pack fairly late) and have a grand total of 1 FRDS.
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    Redscale(both kinds).

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    Thanks for the information but is there anything else before redscales can be grinded? I don't think many people now have the new redscales post u14.

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    Black dragonscale is pretty nice, with the 10% armor piercing.
    Red dragonscale is better in the new content/you're in need for slots

    I still use dragontouched with 10/20% healing amp and destruction because healing amp is OP if you are your own healer.

    I've never seen the merit of the epic utility vest, it just gives you a blue slot and 2 insight Int. Especially with the +3insight bonus available on
    other better gear.
    Epic duelist leathers gives you +4% dodge and a blue slot.
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    just putting it out there cuz no one's mentioned it yet: the Epic Rakshasa Hide can be quite nice as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSFWEl View Post
    Don't think there is a BEST, but here is what I use:
    Of course theres a best. Redscale adds the most dps. Therefore its the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSFWEl View Post
    1. Epic Utility Vest for those times you need the extra +5 to DD. Also not bad armor. Usually now I don't bother what with my epic Kundark Gog's, but I still carry it just in case.
    Utility vest is useless.


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    2. Recently I got the Hide of the Goristro from Trial in the Demoweb and like it a lot.
    Not bad i suppose assuming you use stunning blow/sunder.


    Quote Originally Posted by SSFWEl View Post
    hehe maybe. a bit hard to get though. I have ran eVon6 about 12-13 times (a very modest amount, I know - got the pack fairly late) and have a grand total of 1 FRDS.
    Its the best endgame rogue armor period. If you dont like the grind then you gotta settle for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunlee123 View Post
    Thanks for the information but is there anything else before redscales can be grinded? I don't think many people now have the new redscales post u14.
    Actually alot of people have the new redscale. Its actually alot easier then grinding the raid in hopes of a shard. It depends on the item build which versions are better. Redscale is the best armor but if you dont want to grind for it then i would use Black Scale.

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    Redscale is pretty useless when there is immunity to fire.

    Blackscale will outdps redscale if the armor piercing is relevant.

    'Best' is situational.

    If i can survive a fight because i can full heal scroll myself because i got high healing amp, i do more dps then when i'm dead with more dps gear.
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    No armor will make or break your rogue.

    As this thread shows, it's a matter/difference of opinion on what some think works better.

    I have for my rogue: Epic utility vest, and the epic Rakshasa hide and a couple of others. When Im in full DPS mode, I wear the Rakshasa hide. When Im playing the trapper I wear the Utility vest.

    If you play your rogue good and have a decent build, you will do fine wearing nothing. Id worry more about finding the right weapons to wield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOOON375 View Post
    If you play your rogue good and have a decent build, you will do fine wearing nothing.
    No doubt we'll soon see an answer to this by Rogann telling us that "thou shalt have no other builds than Rogann's".

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    spider spun outfit and sun soul set works nicely for me. got black and red for swaping, but never bother.
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    might not be the very best but I am fairly partial to epic tier 3 duelist leathers. I put a HP gem in its slot and find it a very solid piece of armor on my rogue fighter build.

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    lol I like the look of the epic utility vest so I wear that, I think I have it slotted with toughness. Works for me. Ac is only in the mid 50 on my rogue but that with15%+ dodge and I seem to do ok.
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    Epic Chimera's Crown (Helm); Chimera III (+20 Stacking Hit Points), +5 Natural Armor, SR 30, colorless slot & yellow slot

    Epic Utility Vest; +20 OL & DD, +6 Dex, +2 Insightfull Intelligence, Blue Slot

    Mineral II Bracers; +5 Prot, Heavy Fort, +45 HP, 2 clickies of stoneskin

    Purple Dragon Knight Gloves; +7 Strength, +30% Healing Amp, +2 Insightful Con

    Drow Cloak; +5 SA, +15 Hide & Move Silently, Invisibility Guard

    Woodsman Googles; +6 Seeker, True Seeing, Attack +3

    Woodsman Boots (Striding +30%, insightfull dex +2, MS +15

    Epic Treasure Hunter's Spyglass (+20 Search, Spot, Insightfull Int +2, Enhanced UMD +3, Green Slot (+2 Luck)

    Belt; TOD belt with +6 Con and GFL

    Necklace: Venom (Superior False Life)

    Rings (still TBD, currently wearing Epic Ring of the Buccaneer and Venom)

    I still need to complete my helm but everything else is done. I slotted my ring with +6 Char and my trinket with +6 Int so I'm always in assassinate mode and have a standing 40 UMD for heal scrolls. I was planning on going Abashi set and I still may do that for a pure DPS layout but I really like the versatility of my current layout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengenance View Post
    Epic Chimera's Crown (Helm); Chimera III (+20 Stacking Hit Points), +5 Natural Armor, SR 30, colorless slot & yellow slot

    Epic Utility Vest; +20 OL & DD, +6 Dex, +2 Insightfull Intelligence, Blue Slot

    Mineral II Bracers; +5 Prot, Heavy Fort, +45 HP, 2 clickies of stoneskin

    Purple Dragon Knight Gloves; +7 Strength, +30% Healing Amp, +2 Insightful Con

    Drow Cloak; +5 SA, +15 Hide & Move Silently, Invisibility Guard

    Woodsman Googles; +6 Seeker, True Seeing, Attack +3

    Woodsman Boots (Striding +30%, insightfull dex +2, MS +15

    Epic Treasure Hunter's Spyglass (+20 Search, Spot, Insightfull Int +2, Enhanced UMD +3, Green Slot (+2 Luck)

    Belt; TOD belt with +6 Con and GFL

    Necklace: Venom (Superior False Life)

    Rings (still TBD, currently wearing Epic Ring of the Buccaneer and Venom)

    I still need to complete my helm but everything else is done. I slotted my ring with +6 Char and my trinket with +6 Int so I'm always in assassinate mode and have a standing 40 UMD for heal scrolls. I was planning on going Abashi set and I still may do that for a pure DPS layout but I really like the versatility of my current layout.
    You took 3 dragonmark feats on a pure rogue? Otherwise you don't get the 20hp and 30SR on the chim crown.
    No +5 SA bonus? No exceptional SA bonus or exceptional seeker? No resistance +5/6? (+4 from slot i presume) No tod set? Also you got good luck twice it seems.

    Far from the 'best' rogue armor for which the OP asked imo, think we can agree from this thread that e utility vest is only the best for disabling traps.
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    I like the Utitlity Vest, because it offers some nice slot consolidation.
    Imho, it's not the best armor, but it's an accessible and useful one.
    Other than that, I liked a set of DT robes, but their days have gone, with PRR and AC mattering a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .Revenga. View Post
    You took 3 dragonmark feats on a pure rogue? Otherwise you don't get the 20hp and 30SR on the chim crown.
    No +5 SA bonus? No exceptional SA bonus or exceptional seeker? No resistance +5/6? (+4 from slot i presume) No tod set? Also you got good luck twice it seems.

    Far from the 'best' rogue armor for which the OP asked imo, think we can agree from this thread that e utility vest is only the best for disabling traps.
    Didn't notice the DM prereqs, only really shows in the fine print. I'd never waste 3 feats on Dragon Marks. The +5 SA Bonus is on the Drow Cloak. Presently I only have good luck once on the ring of the buccaneer that will be replaced as soon as I find something better. I have INT slotted on the Spyglass until I grind out a TOD ring (maybe) or go with a DunRobar seal instead paired with the Epic Ring of the Stalker.

    This char was basically inactive for almost a year and a half as I was displeased with Ranger at end game. I decided to make him into a rogue, a class I really enjoy, just a few weeks ago. I went Int Based assassin and I haven't really fleshed out my gear load out. I just noticed the Crown the other day as I've pulled the seal and scroll while hunting for the Midnight Greetings seal. With two slots & 20 hit points it looked rather sexy (have lots of Epic Tokens), not so sexy if DMs are a prereq for the bonus.

    I still haven't fleshed out my final loadout, hoping to get some ideas from this thread. I can craft the Abashi helm & Cloak right now missing some parts of the boots but still undecided if I want the Abashi set on this char.

    Too many choices right now but I like a few pieces of what I'm wearing right now (Min II Bracers, Utility Vest, Spyglass, PDK Gauntlest, Woodsman Goggles, & Drow Cloak). I also have a mineral II cloak that was just replaced with bracers so I can go either or if necessary (kind of a waste of ingredients I know).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengenance View Post
    Didn't notice the DM prereqs, only really shows in the fine print. I'd never waste 3 feats on Dragon Marks. The +5 SA Bonus is on the Drow Cloak. Presently I only have good luck once on the ring of the buccaneer that will be replaced as soon as I find something better. I have INT slotted on the Spyglass until I grind out a TOD ring (maybe) or go with a DunRobar seal instead paired with the Epic Ring of the Stalker.

    This char was basically inactive for almost a year and a half as I was displeased with Ranger at end game. I decided to make him into a rogue, a class I really enjoy, just a few weeks ago. I went Int Based assassin and I haven't really fleshed out my gear load out. I just noticed the Crown the other day as I've pulled the seal and scroll while hunting for the Midnight Greetings seal. With two slots & 20 hit points it looked rather sexy (have lots of Epic Tokens), not so sexy if DMs are a prereq for the bonus.

    I still haven't fleshed out my final loadout, hoping to get some ideas from this thread. I can craft the Abashi helm & Cloak right now missing some parts of the boots but still undecided if I want the Abashi set on this char.

    Too many choices right now but I like a few pieces of what I'm wearing right now (Min II Bracers, Utility Vest, Spyglass, PDK Gauntlest, Woodsman Goggles, & Drow Cloak). I also have a mineral II cloak that was just replaced with bracers so I can go either or if necessary (kind of a waste of ingredients I know).
    yes i figured this item build was still a theoretical one :-p

    There's a thread from karl koch somewhere in here where there is alot of talk about possible gear set ups with most of the intresting items mentioned, although it's for a str based rogue iirc, but that shouldn't change much.



    Quote Originally Posted by karl_k0ch View Post
    I like the Utitlity Vest, because it offers some nice slot consolidation.
    Imho, it's not the best armor, but it's an accessible and useful one.
    Other than that, I liked a set of DT robes, but their days have gone, with PRR and AC mattering a bit.
    I agree with this, i'll be using DT robes solely for solo'ing/shortman with 100% byoh and black dragonscale for epic elite raids, in which PR becomes very useful. The question is what to use in epic elite quest with no healer present... :-p
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    Quote Originally Posted by .Revenga. View Post
    The question is what to use in epic elite quest with no healer present... :-p
    shadow form and displace/dodge clickies. PPR and AC doesn't help there. at least the amounts a rogue can have.
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