My first build. Need feedback

[ExittGhostt]

This is my first attempt at making my own build. I've never gotten close to endgame content, but I want to make sure this character would be viable if I would play him that far. My main focus was to deal good damage while having good survivability also.
Any changes or suggestions are welcome (:

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Level 20 Neutral Good Dwarf Male
(20 Fighter) 
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 8
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    26
Dexterity            12                    12
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                    16
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         2                     3
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  1                     1
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                    30
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         1                     1
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                  0                     0
Swim                  4                     8
Tumble                2                     2
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 5 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) II


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Sunder
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) III


Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) IV


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Resilience
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III


Level 17 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost IV


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Brutal Throw
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery II


Level 19 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery III


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Thrown Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics II

[MeatSheild]

Ok stat allocation: this is a min/max game meaning if its not important to your build... dump it. Some of the feats you selected are either not woth a feat or don't work together. I see that you used no tomes and for what your looking for thats not an issue at all. I'm putting this build more into surviving than DPS you should easly be able to tank with this when you get to that lv. It also qualifies for kensi if you feel the need to swap back and forth. I'd suggest swinging a great axe till things get hairy then swaping to axe and board. I dropped in imp trip so you can get your main focus of your dps on a helpless mob to make things go a bit faster (get a vertigo item). Hope this helps.

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Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male
(20 Fighter) 
Hit Points: 352
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 7
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    26
Dexterity            13                    13
Constitution         16                    16
Intelligence         13                    13
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               1                     5
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         3                     3
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  1                     1
Intimidate           -2                     6
Jump                  4                     8
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         1                     1
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                1                     3
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  4                     8
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge


Level 5 (Fighter)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Trip


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Bash
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) IV
Enhancement: Fighter Dwarven Waraxe Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Dwarven Waraxe Specialization II
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

[ExittGhostt]

Thank you!
The one thing I don't understand is the importance of kensei. I was looking at builds others have made and seen a lot of them used it. But when I went to make my own and read the description, it didn't seem like it was worth all of the enhancements you have to spend to get it.

[MeatSheild]

Kensi is a nice pre. the best thing is in kensi 2. Kensi surge a +8 to str for a min and you get quite a few of the clickies and you can use them back to back. Another other thing good about kensi is that it increases your crit range so you'll crit more often and there for more dps and wepon procs. Some ppl realy like combat skills (stuns/trips) and every lv of kensi add's +1 to the DC's of those (DC's can be make or break i some epic elites).

[unbongwah]

Have a look at my Axe Maiden.

[Bettysfatboy]

THe game does not have to be a game of min/max. yes many build their characters this way but you can build characters that are very fun to play and do add to a group's success without maxing 1 stat.

Fighter and barbarian though tend to benefit from maxing str and Con, but there are a lot of alternating builds on the forums. Try some build and try not to fall in love with your first character in case you come to realize you want to reroll them.

[Kinerd]

Ok stat allocation: this is a min/max game meaning if its not important to your build... dump it.

The one caveat here is that as a (pre-ED) fighter your best and really only viable option for self-healing is Silver Flame Potions, which have the side effect of giving -10 to all your stats, which in turn has the effect of making you helpless and very dead if you hit 0 in any. While you don't necessarily need to start with 10 in everything, starting as an ugly dwarf with 6 can put you behind the 8 ball. I would also drop Improved Trip for Stunning Blow in a heartbeat, but you could of course squeeze in both on a pure fighter.

Everything else Meat said was spot on. Every class in DDO should have a(t least one) PrE.

[MeatSheild]

True True kindred. Only a few reasons why I went trip insted of stun. While lving you fight alot of undead and they cant be stunned but they can be tripped. Also while lving getting a stun axe is well... unlikely at best (no way that I can recall atm), but a vertigo item isn't tht hard to get your hands on. With that being said at cap I LOVE my stuns. Wish there was a stun +15 item in game like the denith heavy chain does for trip.

[ExittGhostt]

I'll definitely try to fit Kensei into my builds then. It sounds almost mandatory haha
I did another one. A TWF Rogue to help dps in groups, but can still perform the normal rogue functions.

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Olsyn Zuree
Level 20 True Neutral Halfling Male
(20 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 242
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 23
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             12                    12
Dexterity            18                    30
Constitution         16                    16
Intelligence         14                    14
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               8                    34
Bluff                 3                    26
Concentration         3                     4
Diplomacy            -1                     0
Disable Device        6                    26
Haggle               -1                     0
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  8                    38
Intimidate           -1                     0
Jump                  1                     4
Listen               -1                     2
Move Silently         8                    36
Open Lock             8                    34
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                2                     3
Search                6                    26
Spot                  3                    23
Swim                  1                     2
Tumble                8                    34
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 7 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost III


Level 8 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II


Level 10 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike


Level 11 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost IV


Level 13 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV


Level 14 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III


Level 16 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV


Level 17 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Power Critical
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV


Level 19 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Cheat Death
Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

[Therigar]

What races do you have available to you and what character classes?

I disagree with Meatshield's combat expertise build strategy. I disagree with Kinerd's Silver Flame potion strategy.

IMO people playing fighters, particularly on first life characters, should get in with a good group or a good guild and do very little solo adventuring. With a good group or a good guild you will have limited need for self healing.

Tanking is mostly an unnecessary part of the game. (Here it is necessary to define what it means to tank. A tank gets and holds aggression while mobs attack so that other characters can do other things.) There are only a few, very specific places where tanking figures into the normal strategy. If you are going to tank then you are not going to want to go Kensai as the PrE. You are going to want Stalwart Defender instead.

You want human for maximum healing amp or half-elf if you have it available. Half-elf is actually the better choice IMO.

If half-elf is available try to qualify for a cleric, favored soul, ranger or paladin dilettante in order to use cure wands. These and cure potions are available from the guild vendors in House K and should be more than sufficient for self healing.

What I do agree with is Meatshield's observation that this is a min/max game. It does not HAVE to be, but generally speaking it is.

If you do not have half-elf you simply max STR and CON with a human. You qualify Stalwart Defender with the Toughness and Shield Mastery feats. You use the human bonus feat to select either dwarven axe or bastard sword as exotic weapons. You take the full THF feat line. You fight generally with either great sword or great axe (or falchion, which is an often overlooked two-handed option with high crit ranges) but switch to the exotic weapon and tower shield if/when you genuinely need to go into tank mode.

Then you pour your effort into the combat tactics with remaining feats.

The Kensai line really is geared towards DPS. It is the better line if you are NOT tanking. It is used to maximize the effectiveness of your combat tactics like trip, cleave, stunning blow, etc. The strategy is simple -- kill everything before it can kill you. On such builds hit points and healing amp are your main sources of protection.

If you have half-elf available then you start with 17 STR 14 DEX 17 CON. You take the ranger dilettante. You use human adaptability and greater adaptability to raise STR and CON to 18 with enhancements. You spend a fighter bonus feat on the bastard sword or dwarven axe and otherwise build as with the human.

[MeatSheild]

I would trade WF: P for Precision, Power critical for imp crit: P, and defensive roll for imp evation. And make sure to pick up the PrE for assasin.

[Therigar]

I would trade WF: P for Precision, Power critical for imp crit: P, and defensive roll for imp evation. And make sure to pick up the PrE for assasin.

I agree with this in its entirety.

I would also change the sequencing for when you take the different feats. Take Toughness first, then Weapon Finesse and then Two Weapon Fighting.

The reason is pretty simple, TWF misses more than it hits early on in a character's life. You are better off just grabbing hold of a light shield and fighting sword and board for the first five levels. Not only will you have slightly higher AC but you will also gain some DR when blocking.

At L6 you take TWF and you pick up the Assassin PrE.

[Kinerd]

I disagree with Meatshield's combat expertise build strategy. I disagree with Kinerd's Silver Flame potion strategy.

I recommended against min-maxing and Therigar disagreed??? Now I've seen everything.