36-point final build

[Habreno]

I currently have a 34-point Cleric, who was a first life Cleric. He's got the basic melee gear you need to be good, STR +7 item, Kyosho's Set, EAGA, other things. Right now I'm a shard away from ESOS (yeah, may take a while) and working ToD for the Encrusted set. While I know I will have to recraft a GS for leveling and GS gear for cap, as well as an Alchemical for the sheer joy of it, the question now lies with what to TR into.


So I have several questions.

1a) What would you TR into? Fighter or Barbarian.
1b) Why would you pick that class?

2a) I already know I'm going to go THF. Which weapon will I want to craft for a Greensteel item? Keep in mind I have Epic Antique (with +7 slot) and SOS base item already, and missing only the shard for ESOS.
2b) For an Alchemical?

3) I like pure builds. They just appeal to me. Whatever class you suggested in 1a, tell me a reason to splash and a reason to stay pure, outside the capstone. Evasion does not count as a reason to splash, it will be disabled by medium or heavy armor.

4) This isn't really a question, but sort of is. I have every +3 tome but INT. If you had to build a build for your answer in 1a and your preference (splash or pure) in 3, what would your stat allocation (and leveling progress, if applicable) be, and why?


5) What other gear am I obviously missing for a good melee toon? I currently balance SP, healing, offensive casting, and melee on my Cleric, and depending on the destiny, can either take out many a mob with offensive spells, melee, ranged (Shiradi is so OP with Double Rainbow) or heal a party through Epic Elites, so my gear setup will not be ideal.


6) This will be my first 3rd life toon. Any specific gear/quests/tactics I should know to get him back to cap fairly quickly? I'm more concerned with the lower levels, say, 10 and under. Once I get to 10 I should be fine as I can easily pull my weight in TR groups by then. I'm definitely not concerned with level 20+, but levels 18 and 19 may be a problem.


7) This is a minor question. I have not used the free LR on the toon. Will that screw me up in any way, shape, or form with TRing?



Appreciate your answers, enjoy this thoughtful progress.

[Dielzen]

If my answer to #1 is Paladin, can I skip the other #s cause that's too much work for me to plan out your whole character for you?

[Lonnbeimnech]

Epic kensai fall behind epic barbs at the moment. It used to be that fighters out dps barbs while their boosts were active (and this is still true from 1-20), well now barbs can twist in haste boost, so that puts them well ahead of fighters in dps.

If you are going for a tank build, stalward is still viable.

[Azaghan]

1a) Pure Half-Orc Barbarian would be my choice (Legendary Dreadnought as Epic Destiny)
1b) Currently top THF DPS, also chaining Lay Waste + Supreme Cleave + Great Cleave + Cleave is so much fun

2a) Probably a Lit II Falchion for leveling (or Greataxe if you want to use it at endgamee too but I think you won't need to)
2b) I went for Earth/Air/Water and it is excellent so far
2c) I would also craft an Epic elemental Greataxe of Fire from Cannith Challenges

3) Splashing 2 Fighter will grant you 2 feats (will let you go full THF line with Stunning Blow and Toughness with one more feat to choose from ,say, epic Toughness or Improved Sunder/Trip). Will also grant Heavy armor use. Pure will cost you Toughness if don't want to lose DPS or Stun (it is OK barbs don't really need Toughness) but will net you 1 more rage/day, 1% dodge, +1 DR/- and +2 STR/+2 CON from Mighty Rage. Barbarian Capstone is too big DPS increase not to be mentioned here (the main reason to go pure in my opinion). +10% Glancing Blow Damage is huge when you hit for so big damage numbers
4)Definitely Max STR and CON, rest up to you, probably DEX for Ref Save (you will have to slot some INT WIS and CHA to be able to drink Silver Flame Pots though), maybe some INT on a H-Orc for skills

5) There are many threads about good melee gearing, I will just note that healing amplification is extremely important for a Barbarian (I use 30% from PDK gloves and 20% from Conv. Bracers of Superior Parrying)

6) Again, there are many threads about optimal TR paths. Some friend/guildie to run with helps tremendously, however if you twink yourself and prepare you can solo almost everything with a healing hireling (will need some micromanagement/tactics in some tricky spots)

7) In no way that I am aware of

Just a side tip: A crafted Screaming Falchion of Bleeding (For levels 1-3) and a Carnifex (plus an undead beating maul) is all the weapons you will need until you are able to equip your SoS (and your GS a couple of levels later)

Just my opinion of course, I hope I helped you a bit

[Purkilius]

Pure helf kensai with enough wisdom to take the cleric dilettante

I would pick that for the self sufficiency, amp, tactics(a lot of feats) and great synergy between Human Versatility DMG boost and haste boost.

[Azaghan]

Pure helf kensai with enough wisdom to take the cleric dilettante

I would pick that for the self sufficiency, amp, tactics(a lot of feats) and great synergy between Human Versatility DMG boost and haste boost.

This is a very good option too!

[azmodeus1]

horc 18fvs/2ftr/5fury

2 ftr for the feats and haste boost.

you want self sufficiency this is it. add top of the line dps, as well as self buffs and you have a very self sufficient melee that can excel as dps and healer. 18clr/2ftr/5fury would work also.

pm me for build if you're interested. i guarantee you'll out dps a helf melee, factoring in time for scroll healing, not to mention the times your scrolling will be interupted and you die (EE)...you can't beat a quickened heal. you can also throw mass heals to help your lesser melee allies.

[Azaghan]

horc 18fvs/2ftr/5fury

2 ftr for the feats and haste boost.

you want self sufficiency this is it. add top of the line dps, as well as self buffs and you have a very self sufficient melee that can excel as dps and healer. 18clr/2ftr/5fury would work also.

pm me for build if you're interested. i guarantee you'll out dps a helf melee, factoring in time for scroll healing, not to mention the times your scrolling will be interupted and you die (EE)...you can't beat a quickened heal. you can also throw mass heals to help your lesser melee allies.

This will be a very solid build for self-sufficiency, but I highly doubt it is going to out-dps a full barbarian 20/fury or LD 5 regardless of racial choice.

[Habreno]

I am not playing another divine. The problems I have now is I play a pure 20 Cleric that gets pigenholed too much into healing.


I don't care about the self heals, I'm just looking for DPS.


Therefore, while builds like a HElf Cleric Dilly Fighter are nice, and I'm sure work very well, they won't entirely be appropriate.



From what I see, HOrc Barb, either pure or 18/2, seems the best.