Warchanter Gear Advice.

[Chronis]

Hi, I had been gone since around U8/U9, came back to the game probably 2 weeks before U15 and ate a Stone of EXP. Since then my Warchanter is now level 23. I have no idea what kind of gear I should be aiming for or even what to try and farm up. As of this point I have no greensteel items but have been farming mats for when I know what I want and where.

So as a 15 Bard/3 Rogue/2 Fighter Human Warchanter(TWF Khopesh) how would you gear? Where would you place your GS items? Im VIP with Expansion so I can run anything to get said gear but I am Clueless! I am mainly looking for my Main slot items. Understanding that I will have to use some swap ins for some situations, feel free to add those in two if you feel like it!

Thank you for your time!

By Drallacs advice Im just going to post my Current build. I use my enhancements to even out my stats as needed so I didnt fill them in, the only static points in enhancements is for Warchanter and Haste Boost/Human Versitility.

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Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(2 Fighter \ 3 Rogue \ 15 Bard) 
Hit Points: 250
Spell Points: 424 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 16
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            15                    18
Constitution         16                    19
Intelligence          9                    12
Wisdom                9                    12
Charisma             10                    13

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                 Feat/Enhancement
                  Modified Skills
Skills             (Level 20)
Balance                 15
Bluff                    1
Concentration           26
Diplomacy                1
Disable Device          24
Haggle                   5
Heal                     1
Hide                     4
Intimidate               1
Jump                    13
Listen                   1
Move Silently            4
Open Lock               11
Perform                 23
Repair                   1
Search                  24
Spot                     1
Swim                     7
Tumble                   5
Use Magic Device        24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR

[Drallac]

think it really depends on your stats, what skills you use etc. do you use rogue skills?

Personally I have ditched alot of my GS items, as 45 hp isnt as big of a deal now as it used to be, also the spellpoints can be gained from the war wizard commendation set, (+ 10% cheaper spells) some more build/feat information would be useful as well as if you use any tactical feats.

[Chronis]

Well now a my base build is listed. I wasnt sure how much info people really needed or if there was items considered must have for melees.

[cru121]

House Cannith quests:
alchemist's pendant
cannith boots of propulsion
fabricator's gauntlets

House C challenges:
lot of gear, starting with the khopeshes

Eveningstar commendation turn-ins:
purple dragon gauntlets!

Shroud:
concordant opposition SP item

[Drallac]

What ED do you plan to finish with?

Personally I liked the epic abishai set but thats become somewhat redundant now( although still ok for 3 piece), in my mind youd need the following:

+10/9 str and con
+9 cha
Melee alacrity
SP item (gs)



I would go about this:
Armour: Chitin Breastplate (8con)
Helm: Purple Dragon helm
Necklace: War Wizard Necklace
Trinket: I would consider either the blasting chime or a planar focus
Cloak:
Belt: spare hand (static OL and DD + other goodies)
Ring:
Boots: Boots of propulsion
Ring:Ring of the stalker
gloves: Purple Dragon gloves
Bracers: War Wizard Bracers
Gogglesruids goggles (True seeing attack bonus and seeker)


that leaves you with a cloak and ring slot to fill with your str and con at +9 and +10, you have your SP item, you could use archmagi item on ring for some buffing sp, id actually suggest a +6cha/perform 15 cloak as fascinate is awesome these days. Im sure there are people out there who will disagree with all of this but i think it gives you a lot of pros and few cons

[Chronis]

Well right now Im level 5 Fatesinger and FS will probally be my main even tho soon I will be looking to find stuff to Twist in. Between the 2 sets of Advice I am seeing some good stuff!
I must say that at least 3 piece abishai set looks really tempting. Probably Helm, Gloves, Cloak(+7 Con/Cha is nice +6 Str seems kinda meh but bracers/boots are even worse) Plus right now I have +7 str in a different slot so im using normal Charged Gauntlets(lack of anything else to put there atm) and loving the proc with my ED giving Reign and (Max) 65% Sonic, 15% light and 15% electric vulnerability. Not even talking about Turn of the Tide short term 40% damage increase seems to be working on all damage(Not sure if WAI because against bosses Im getting the sonic and light damage also).

Btw Attack Bonus dont stack with Bard songs! So Druid goggles would only give Seeker/True Seeing.

[Drallac]

That's true but often I don't use courage (but my damage is lower) as I'd rather use dirge and fascinate

[NovaNZ]

Hail Chronis

Zongen (see signature below) is working towards the following gear. By no means is this top notch but reasonably accessable.

Helm: PD helm - CON+7, insight STR +2.
Goggles: Drow Smoke goggles / Tharnes
Armour: Terrorweb Chitin Breastplate / Hide of Goristro
Bracers: Min II GS - heavy fort, +45 HP
Ring: Seal of Szind - Potency +68, +225 SP, CHA +7
Ring: Seal of Dun'Robar - Stun +10
Boots: Cannith
Gloves: Purple Dragon gauntlets / Fabricator's Gauntlets
Belt: Spare Hand (lvl16 tier 2 or above)
Cloak: Magewright / GS - Con-opp, 150SP, CHA skills +6
Trinklet: Blasting Chime / epic Dusk Heart
Necklass: Torc / Symbol of the Shining Sun / jorgundal's collar

[78mackson]

Helm: GS sp cha conc.
Goggles: Tharnes
Armour: Terrorweb Chitin Breastplate
Bracers: Claw +2 con
Ring: Shintao - devotion 78
Ring: Ravager/zerker TOD- heal amp 20
Boots: GS heavy fort sp/hp
Gloves: claw +30% amp
Belt: knost belt/ravager
Cloak: new challenge +5 exep.
Trinklet: planar +3str
Necklass: shintao

Whats great with this set up is that you can find lower tier of loot easy and build your self up just like in that game RISK.

i.e.

1. No claw set? - fine go with PDK, oh no 375 favor, fine go with fabricators.


2. One of the TOD rings slots can be replaced by the manslayer one.. and you can add sparehand to your repetoire.

CitW hammers is probably the most funtime I've had with my bard so far.. SB DC of 55+.

[Chronis]

And I see more good stuff coming into this thread. I notice alot of people wearing a Devotion item. I dont do alot of healing with my mana. I mean I heal with Scrolls and Wands mostly while blowing my mana pool to keep everyone buffed and dealing top damage. I just dont seem to have a sustainable enough mana pool to heal from it on the weak heals a bard has(Only level 5 spells, 15 bard levels) do you feel like you get any bang for your buck using cure critical or mass cure light(I think Mod also if you have level 6 spells)?

[NovaNZ]

Hail Chronis

Zongen carries a devotion +108 item (twf) and has maximise running almost constantly. She is TWF Daxe spec Warchanter but I find I throw mclw and mcmw reaonably often while meleeing (conc +15 item helps) and that has often been the difference during an encounter. Heal scrolls for sure.

Also try using the odd ".... Cloud' scroll for 20% concealment for friendlies in the cloud - even against named Boses.

Bottom line - gear yoru bard to take on role of secondary healer. As a warchanter I dont believe you'll regret it.

GL

[78mackson]

SP Management for this build?

Easy -- buff less. You are not there for the buffs.. its the songs. The kind of build you got their OP will never have enough SP or be a main or backup healer for anything that requires a healer...but that is all good.

/rant on!
Tons of sources to get GH (planar girds, shavarath clicky, UMD) and I don't throw out blur unless the mission is rough, why?
it is outright boring, time consuming and in many cases not needed.
"Oh how dare you -- you selfish elitistic prick" some might say.. well, to those people just need to plan their own gear wee bit better, and make this little thing that others may refer to as 'making an effort';
fitting in smokes screen on a GS HP item, picking up a mabar cloak and a couple of GH clickys should be more or less core on non blue bars...
Rest of the buffs is stuff you want anyway (rage and haste comes to mind).
/rant off..
Maxmize + devotion + heal amp equals a very self suffient and survivable toon -- even more so with quicken.