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    Community Member .Revenga.'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar7 View Post
    I know how to use assassinate effieciently, by jump sneaking when close to an enemy, but the fact is rogues are slow melee. I guess it all comes down to who you are playing with, if you are playing with low dps people assassinate will be amazing. I still use it but it's more of a situational ability, in a good group it's hard to get it off in time. Once I get more info on the enhancement pass I will most likely be going back to max strength,I believe the extra dps outweighs a situational ability.
    I guess you meant using assasinate slows the dps of a rogue? not that rogues are slow melee :-p

    But i must agree with this, assasinate is an awesome ability, but with 14 starting int I am able to assasate reliably in epic hard and low save enemies (casters/ranged) in epic elite. Assasinate remains a rather unreliable skill imo, there's alot that can go wrong, putting you on a 12(15?) second timer.
    Things that make me fail assasinate are:
    - fort saves in epic elite when no low fort mobs are available
    - the physical hit not connecting due to lag, bad positioning or strange mob movement
    - hitting assasinate right before/after i got hit by a stray arrow/spell that causes me to unstealth
    - assasinating a stunned mob that was going to die pretty much instantly anyway, often hurting ki-regeneration of my partymember and lowering my personal dps by not hitting anything nor doing a useful skill for a few seconds
    - stealth jumping in at the start of the fight sometimes refrains me from activating rogue PL active, lowering my dps afterwards, it also forces me to use action boosts in the fight instead 1 second before the fight

    I'm convinced that in some fights not using assasinate would grant better results, although i always do use it because it is fun. Then again, 100% speccing for this ability seems somewhat irrational to me, although it should certainly be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .Revenga. View Post
    I guess you meant using assasinate slows the dps of a rogue? not that rogues are slow melee :-p
    I meant their movement speed is slow compared to that of a monk, barb or even ranger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akash View Post
    I know STR based Rouges are very good DPs but I don't need DPS to kill trash, my requirement is to one shot every epic trash. I only need DPS for boss fighting, which is difficult with 2 EMGs but possible if slotted properly and blessed by an Artificer The reason why I wanted to use 2 eMGs is because I heard that's the only weapon in the game which uses DEX for both to hit and damage if DEX is higher than STR but I can be wrong too. Radiance II GS Kukri is indeed a very nice weapon, I want to have one. Does the blinding effect works on bosses too?


    Actually I want to count on Sneak Attack for damage. I will definitely get my STR, DEX, CON, INT, CHA as high as possible with gears but I'm concerned how I can improve the base stats without gimping the build? I know UMD is very important, and my Dwarf dumped UMD Barbarian feels it everyday


    That's exactly what I thought while posting this thread but is it correct that dumping STR is all right for DEX+INT based Rouges?
    Yes I was wrong about kukri dmg mod - been awhile since I actually looked at my EMG.
    Still you can't dump str.

    1. There is no way you will once shot assassinate every piece of trash. Even with high DC. You need regular DPS.
    2. You can't depend on kukris. It's a seriously bad idea and you are tying yourself to something you will regret later. The idea sounds cool I'll admit, but as someone who has been a dex based rogue for the past year and half, DPS is your friend. I too have a large collection of weps on me and switch between them all the time.
    3. You can't assassinate undead or ellys or constructs. So you will just pike through them? EMGs suck vs them usually.
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