Loot ownership in chests

[redspecter23]

Just skimmed over some of the responses, but something that the OP may not realize is that if someone leaves the group and their name disappears from the drop down list, that could cause more problems than it solves by shifting the list as you're trying to pass an item.

An option I would like added is the toggleable ability to "pass only once" If I pass a bound to character item, I have the option to "pass only once". The person it's being passed to can then loot it, or leave it. They cannot pass it again. Also a confirmation box "are you sure you would like to pass XXX to player? Y/N" That could solve many issues.

[dterror]

This would cause far more issues with loot than it will solve. Instead of the rare occurrence of "oops I passed it to the wrong person," these forums would be flooded with threads about "I crashed and when I got back they had looted all my stuff" or "So-and-so took my stone out of loot range and dropped it and waited 60 seconds and looted all my stuff."

If you crash AFTER you loot the chest, tough luck. Chances are good that if you completely crashed out of the game you won't be back in before everyone has left the raid / quest and the instance has timed out anyway.
If someone has your stone, then you are obviously dead at the time, and CANNOT LOOT the chest, meaning any loot for you has not yet been generated, and would thus be unaffected.

[Saravis]

Also a confirmation box "are you sure you would like to pass XXX to player? Y/N" That could solve many issues.

With a possible addition to that message, "XXX Player is not currently in the quest, are you sure you want to pass it to them? Y/N" would be a simple resolution to passing to out-of-quest players.

[SardaofChaos]

Two problems have already come up in this thread with this suggestion which haven't been reasonably answered.

1. DCs - They happen to us all!

2. Soul Stones being left well away from the chest.

For #1 alone I cannot sign this suggestion.

However I do have a proposal for #2 - Make it so Dead Characters loot CANNOT be reassigned in any way. Simples!

3 posts above you, #1 was reasonably answered.

It could probably be made such that a user going offline would not trigger the loot deassociation, just leaving the quest would. It could be tied into the recall system to ensure such.

As for #2, I don't believe anyone has supported it past the initial suggestion in the OP, so it's not an issue.

[FranOhmsford]

3 posts above you, #1 was reasonably answered.


As for #2, I don't believe anyone has supported it past the initial suggestion in the OP, so it's not an issue.

Unfortunately I find it to be unreasonable to expect the devs to be able to add in the DC fix you've suggested.

Whereas Dead Characters as someone else noted don't have their loot generated anyway - You must be alive and click the chest yourself to generate your loot - Making #2 a non-issue.

I will agree however with another poster who noted that if you DC after you've looted the end chest chances are you're not getting back before the instance is closed anyhow - And if people do wait for you then those people aren't likely going to be stiffing you of loot having been nice enough to hold the instance in-case you return.

So - /Signed.

[Habreno]

The only change I'd like to see to loot-assignment is a small countdown timer added, say five seconds, so the original owner can change recipients of the item. This is in case they accidentally click the wrong name or the person leaves the quest.


IMHO, no other change needed.

/Signed to this.


/Not Signed to OP.

[Arkat]

imagine someone leaving a shard/seal of Sword of Shadows in the chest and recalls out...

If they did it to spite someone specifically or the group as a whole, they would certainly land themselves on MY list but it's their loot and they can do whatever they want to do with it.

My loot, my decision.

Mem's idea is fine, or a verification prompt when you choose to reassign loot. Other wise, no auto reassigning what drops in my name.

This.

[V_mad_jester_V]

actually i kinda like the ops idea many a times when i was one my rogue and i forgot to pull tools from my bank i have seen tolls just sit there and many a times it goes like this

*using mic* "can i have those tools" no response
*types in party chat* "can i have those tools?? no response

5 mins later into quest

*guy who didnt pass me tools i needed* "can you disable this trap?"
*types into chat assuming he's def at this point "i need those tools that you left in the chest way back thre"
*his response and at this point i assume he's stupid* "f it lets just keep going"
*he dies from traps and tells me how crappy of a trapper i am. (75 disable device sand i get get it to 79) At this point and time i know he's an idiot, all because i couldnt loot tools he wouldnt have needed and i could have used.

While i see some merit to the no ownership for stuff intentionally left behind, there would have to be a certain way of doing this. Which i think it should work like this

once all items by owner has been looted, upon closing chest all items left behind have no ownership. Before exiting a chest a prompt will appear "Are you sure you wish to leave these items behind Y/N" click no to double check your loot, click yes to leave everything with no ownership. Chances are your only looking into that chest once unless your being nosey. So if you loot, realized you shoulda looted something the first time, but you already left chest, tough luck. shoulda been more careful the first time you looked into said chest. Now im not saying this way wont have issues, cuz there will be issues, but again most people loot and go, never looking back.

option 2

No ownership. If you dont want it, set it to no ownership. I collect peoples left behind junk and vendor it off, thats why i make 500+k up to a million plat every toon (not saying i have that much at once, mainly cuz i spend it). Why do any of you guys care that much about **** your leaving in the chest in the first place? Dose it really matter that much to you "my loot my decision" if your decision is to leave it in the chest are you really going to miss it if someone else decides to take it? No, so stop being friggen idiots and figure out a suggestion, cuz I do see alot of sp pots, tools, bolts (for my rogue mech) get left behind. stuff i would like to have if their not taking it. Everyone knows the saying "one mans trash is another mans treasure". Again stop being stupid, and im calling everyone out whose being an idiot, and stop caring about loot your just going to let get deleted any ways.

"no you cant have my shard of such and such, even though im just going to leave it in the chest and exit the quest anyways"

"no you cant have bolts even though you ran out and have no other means of fighting without em"

No you can have the spell components to cast stone skin even though i have no means of casting the stone skin myself"

^^^ see how stupid it is to deny someone something you wont even keep in the first place, when that something might actually help the party. And yes i have ran outta bolts and people just left them in chest and not passed to me, it would be fantastic to be able to loot them freely.


again its just trash you weren't going to keep anyways, so why get fussy over something your trashing? thats like getting upset cuz the garbage men just hauled away the trash that was inside the bin.

[FranOhmsford]

actually i kinda like the ops idea many a times when i was one my rogue and i forgot to pull tools from my bank i have seen tolls just sit there and many a times it goes like this

*using mic* "can i have those tools" no response
*types in party chat* "can i have those tools?? no response

5 mins later into quest

*guy who didnt pass me tools i needed* "can you disable this trap?"
*types into chat assuming he's def at this point "i need those tools that you left in the chest way back thre"
*his response and at this point i assume he's stupid* "f it lets just keep going"
*he dies from traps and tells me how crappy of a trapper i am. (75 disable device sand i get get it to 79) At this point and time i know he's an idiot, all because i couldnt loot tools he wouldnt have needed and i could have used.

Uh? Excuse me but...

The highest DC trap in the game currently is 72 {Cabal for One Elite - Lvl 15} is it not?

With a 75 Disable Device which you're able to get to 79 you have no need of +5 tools!
Any tools will do.

If you seriously had run out of tools completely yet had some in the bank then you have only yourself to blame.

On the other hand that guy was an eejit for not going back and passing you the tools.

Oh btw you can buy tools in a pinch from the DDO Store - Yes I've done this myself when I've been dumb enough to run out - Has happened maybe twice in two years.

[V_mad_jester_V]

Uh? Excuse me but...

The highest DC trap in the game currently is 72 {Cabal for One Elite - Lvl 15} is it not?

With a 75 Disable Device which you're able to get to 79 you have no need of +5 tools!
Any tools will do.

If you seriously had run out of tools completely yet had some in the bank then you have only yourself to blame.

On the other hand that guy was an eejit for not going back and passing you the tools.

Oh btw you can buy tools in a pinch from the DDO Store - Yes I've done this myself when I've been dumb enough to run out - Has happened maybe twice in two years.

lol im terrible cuz i have a faulty memory and forget to buy bolts, so i buy them outta the store to use my flame arrow spell X-D (bolts are a component to said spell)

and i know i dont need +5's but sometimes i use up tools faster that i think i do (kings forest quest with all em bear traps) i actually go through tools faster in fr then i do in ebberon o.0. oh well just gotta remember to check more often, but when im the only trapper in the group, what dose anyone really need those tools for? Yeah yeah you can say they can send em to other toons, but tools are a dime a dozen, every rogue in game should be stocked up with free tools.

Im just sorta unlucky when it comes to chest. One guildie of mine finds a sp pot literally every other chest, another gets tools almost every chest (and hes a monk), gah my luck is horrid with chest >.<

[Tshober]

I like the idea. The objections to it are pretty contrived and easily answered. DC's would have to have occurred AFTER you looted the chest to matter here and dead characters can't loot the chest at all so that is irrelevent. The only objection I saw that would actually apply is the one where you want to spite someone and, if you really don't want someone to have the loot for some reason that I can't imagine, you can always loot it and destroy it. I see no problems at all with the suggestion and it would improve the distribution of loot in a number of instances.

/signed

[Lanilya]

I sign this. I just missed an epic seal i needed, because it has been assigned to someone who already left... I think if someone leaves, his loot should be free for all.

If he wants to not give it to anyone, then he has to choice to take it himself.

Lani

[countfitz]

I have a personal rule, that I do not recall out of a raid untill all named loot has been removed from the chest. (or until the owner of the loot has recalled out anyway)

That way, if any loot gets passed to me by mistake I am still there to do something about it.



I believe a well known guild on Thelanis had a similar rule for their members.

I do this. Half of me does this more on the off chance that, if I DO get the item... hahahaha, it's mine! or that if I stay long enough, the winner of the role might pass it again, etc.