Loot ownership in chests

[dterror]

I'm sure many players could tell stories about the times when they were passing bound loot to someone else in a chest, and clicked the wrong person...a person who had already recalled out of the quest / raid.

I would like to propose the following changes to the ownership of loot in a chest.

1. If someone is not in the quest, whether they're in the party or not, they do not show on the list of people to pass loot to.

2. Once someone leaves the quest / raid, any loot remaining in any chest with their name on it is immediately set to no-owner, meaning anyone remaining in the quest / raid is free to loot it. Additionally, 60 seconds after someone moves away from the chest, outside of looting range but still inside the quest, any loot still flagged with their name reverts to no-owner, allowing anyone to loot it.

This would help prevent 'oops, I passed it to xxxx, and they've already recalled' mistakes, as well as the 'hey, can you pass me that xxxxx if you don't want it? No, sorry, I already recalled / zerged ahead and won't come back / whatever' sitautions as well.

[Arkat]

Sometimes people leave loot in chests on purpose. Usually to protest some sort of issue/event that happened (usually perpetrated by some other player) during the quest.

It is their right to do that whether they leave it in the chest by not passing it or passing it to someone who's already left. The exact sequence of events or how they do it doesn't matter. If someone wants to leave loot in the chest to spite someone, it may be petty, but it's their right.

/not signed

[dterror]

Sometimes people leave loot in chests on purpose. Usually to protest some sort of issue/event that happened (usually perpetrated by some other player) during the quest.

It is their right to do that whether they leave it in the chest by not passing it or passing it to someone who's already left. The exact sequence of events or how they do it, if someone wants to leave loot in the chest to spite someone, it may be petty, but it's their right.

/not signed

Situations where this happens are far more rare than the situations I listed....and if they want to leave raid loot in a chest and not pass it just to be petty, then it is their right to just stand there by the chest all day if that's what it takes in order to prevent the ownership flag from being removed until everyone else has recalled.

[KillEveryone]

I would like to see the list of names in a larger print.

I also would like to see the names of the people that are out of the quest dropped from the list of people available for loot to be passed to.

[herzkos]

not signed.

I would far prefer the loot swap to be non-permanent.
specifically, the person who it was changed to can loot it but the
person for whom it originally dropped can still change the name(re-allocate)
until the item is actually looted. (would also get rid of the proxy rolling issue
if the original person didn't agree with a roll winner gifting it to someone else or putting it up
for trade/auction.)
Don't know how hard that would be to code though. probably a nightmare.

I don't want to see your idea implemented specifically because of link loss, stone
retrieval/ other reasons to leave the immediate area of the chest.


/edit, guess it's a great idea when someone else says something like this but oh well, the idea
is the important thing anyway.

[Dawnsfire]

/not signed

If a person loots a chest and gets loot, it belongs to them. They can keep it, choose to pass it or even leave it if they like. Their stuff means their decision. If they make a bad decision by accident or mistake then it is their responsibility.

The only way I could support anything like what the OP suggests is if they have an opportunity to assign it to 'nobody' (meaning nobody gets it period) and anybody (meaning it is up for grabs by the first person to get it).

[Therrias]

Sometimes people leave loot in chests on purpose. Usually to protest some sort of issue/event that happened (usually perpetrated by some other player) during the quest.

It is their right to do that whether they leave it in the chest by not passing it or passing it to someone who's already left. The exact sequence of events or how they do it doesn't matter. If someone wants to leave loot in the chest to spite someone, it may be petty, but it's their right.

/not signed

Some sort of change is needed, especially since raid loot has a history of not going to the name that is clicked on.

Maybe "people" should find more creative ways to spite someone.

[Memnir]

The only change I'd like to see to loot-assignment is a small countdown timer added, say five seconds, so the original owner can change recipients of the item. This is in case they accidentally click the wrong name or the person leaves the quest.


IMHO, no other change needed.

[Arkat]

The only change I'd like to see to loot-assignment is a small countdown timer added, say five seconds, so the original owner can change recipients of the item. This is in case they accidentally click the wrong name or the person leaves the quest.


IMHO, no other change needed.

This sounds fine to me. Nice suggestion Mem.

[Cernunan]

The only change I'd like to see to loot-assignment is a small countdown timer added, say five seconds, so the original owner can change recipients of the item. This is in case they accidentally click the wrong name or the person leaves the quest.

Or maybe a confirmation box like when looting bound items " You are trading such and such to player such and such, yes or no"

[SardaofChaos]

If you're seriously objecting to the first part of the second suggestion just because "BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE POWERFUL RAID ITEMS IN THE CHEST BECAUSE I HATE EVERYONE IN MY GROUP AND WANT TO BE ON ALL THEIR BLACKLISTS"...

Honestly. If it's that important to you that you not group with anyone ever again, loot the items and then tell the entire party that you're destroying them. That way you get blacklisted and you don't even get any plat from it.

Even ignoring raids, I've seen many a time where people pick and choose, leaving behind ammo, gems, sometimes even mem pots just because their character didn't need them.

Now, all that being said, I am against the part where loot would be reassigned if you get too far from the chest, as there are many legitimate reasons to leave the immediate chest area before loot is entirely taken care of.

[Jay203]

Sometimes people leave loot in chests on purpose. Usually to protest some sort of issue/event that happened (usually perpetrated by some other player) during the quest.

It is their right to do that whether they leave it in the chest by not passing it or passing it to someone who's already left. The exact sequence of events or how they do it doesn't matter. If someone wants to leave loot in the chest to spite someone, it may be petty, but it's their right.

/not signed

imagine someone leaving a shard/seal of Sword of Shadows in the chest and recalls out...

[Standal]

/not signed to OP's suggestion of automatically clearing ownership of loot, but I'd like to propose the following solution to proxy rolling and inadvertent passing of loot to the wrong person:

When you loot bound loot a modified trade window opens. You have to opportunity to loot it yourself or you can select a party member and transfer it immediately to their inventory. Looting to yourself would be a single click in the modified window, passing to Player X would be a selection of Player X, then a second click to actually pass the item. Since the item goes directly to Player X's inventory, it is no longer possible to proxy roll.

[Dysmetria]

I'm sure many players could tell stories about the times when they were passing bound loot to someone else in a chest, and clicked the wrong person...a person who had already recalled out of the quest / raid.

I would like to propose the following changes to the ownership of loot in a chest.

1. If someone is not in the quest, whether they're in the party or not, they do not show on the list of people to pass loot to.

2. Once someone leaves the quest / raid, any loot remaining in any chest with their name on it is immediately set to no-owner, meaning anyone remaining in the quest / raid is free to loot it. Additionally, 60 seconds after someone moves away from the chest, outside of looting range but still inside the quest, any loot still flagged with their name reverts to no-owner, allowing anyone to loot it.

This would help prevent 'oops, I passed it to xxxx, and they've already recalled' mistakes, as well as the 'hey, can you pass me that xxxxx if you don't want it? No, sorry, I already recalled / zerged ahead and won't come back / whatever' sitautions as well.

This would cause far more issues with loot than it will solve. Instead of the rare occurrence of "oops I passed it to the wrong person," these forums would be flooded with threads about "I crashed and when I got back they had looted all my stuff" or "So-and-so took my stone out of loot range and dropped it and waited 60 seconds and looted all my stuff."

[SardaofChaos]

This would cause far more issues with loot than it will solve. Instead of the rare occurrence of "oops I passed it to the wrong person," these forums would be flooded with threads about "I crashed and when I got back they had looted all my stuff" or "So-and-so took my stone out of loot range and dropped it and waited 60 seconds and looted all my stuff."

It could probably be made such that a user going offline would not trigger the loot deassociation, just leaving the quest would. It could be tied into the recall system to ensure such. As for the stone thing, I already stated my distaste for that part anyways.


Random aside: what happens if you and someone else open a chest, don't loot anything, and one of you logs off and gets on another character? That automatically splits the party, so what happens if the other person tries to assign the loot to the character that is now gone? Has anyone ever had a chance to see this?

[countfitz]

Sometimes people leave loot in chests on purpose. Usually to protest some sort of issue/event that happened (usually perpetrated by some other player) during the quest.

It is their right to do that whether they leave it in the chest by not passing it or passing it to someone who's already left. The exact sequence of events or how they do it doesn't matter. If someone wants to leave loot in the chest to spite someone, it may be petty, but it's their right.

/not signed

If they want to be a petty ***** about it, they can just loot it.

/signed to the OP.

[LordPiglet]

imagine someone leaving a shard/seal of Sword of Shadows in the chest and recalls out...

My loot, my decision.

Mem's idea is fine, or a verification prompt when you choose to reassign loot. Other wise, no auto reassigning what drops in my name.

[FranOhmsford]

Two problems have already come up in this thread with this suggestion which haven't been reasonably answered.

1. DCs - They happen to us all!

2. Soul Stones being left well away from the chest.

For #1 alone I cannot sign this suggestion.

However I do have a proposal for #2 - Make it so Dead Characters loot CANNOT be reassigned in any way. Simples!

[Shadow7375]

There are things in game that are by far way more important to look at and changed/fixed than this loot issue.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I have a personal rule, that I do not recall out of a raid untill all named loot has been removed from the chest. (or until the owner of the loot has recalled out anyway)

That way, if any loot gets passed to me by mistake I am still there to do something about it.



I believe a well known guild on Thelanis had a similar rule for their members.