Yes the new epics are easy - still not an excuse

[locksmith]

Spoon feed new players? I doubt there are that many newer players that would like to be spoon fed through quests/raids.

Verbal bashing is never appropriate, even when you think they deserve it. Honestly, it's this kind of mentality that has kept me from joining groups. While I'm not exactly a new player anymore, I am still learning things. And sometimes I make really stupid mistakes, even though I know better. If I were in your group and made one of those really stupid mistakes and then was verbally bashed, I'd be really hurt. Oh...and btw, I always let the leader know if it's a quest/raid that I don't know well.

It takes a lot to get me to yell at someone, or verbally bash as you put it. If someone dose something dumb after I told them not to they get a smart ### comment like "what did we learn". Wouldn't call it verbal bashing, more just a playful reminder to listen to me next time. As far spoon fed, people send me tells all the time asking to run them through a quest. A few times sure but I have a limit. Or a pug Rever and the leader just assumes someone will be able to solve the puzzle. If they ask up front sure no problem. If we are starring at it then you ask. /recall

[Seph1roth5]

Haven't seen many instructions handed out in shroud, but have seen a lot of phase 2s turn into a scramble-killfest because no one bothered prepping, or getting to the crystal.