Endgame gear for Str-based rogue

[Ragnar7]

What I think the optimal dps and what I'm aiming for is:

Helm: Epic Helm of Frost
Bracers: Epic Claw
Goggles: Greensteel Hp
Necklace: Epic Grim's
Trinket: Prowess
Cloak: Envenomed (still need shard)
Armor: Epic Cormyrian (quite a ways off here)
Gloves: Epic Claw
Belt: Ravager belt
Ring 1: Avithoul 7 dex (still looking, seems nobody farms for these :/)
Ring 2: Ravager
Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion

Another option would be to replace claw set with 5 piece abishai and give up some amp and dps for more hp and slots. I already have claw and the amp and dps is hard to give up for me.

Edit: Another option I was thinking of would be to swap Envenomed for the New Wolf cloak, Claw bracers for Scorched bracers and Prowess trinket for Epic Gem of many facets. I think this would be even higher dps but a lot more squishy.

[orobold]

Nobody mentioned the Hide of the Goristro armor, wich is pretty cool plus very easy to get

[thomhas_of_mabar]

How important is 'To-Hit'?

It's easy to get a dex rogue to 42/44 base dex.
Strength builds have a considerable lower base str value.
(I said base, I know str can be boosted in a multitude of ways) .


I'm using the fabricator's set because the +2 to hit/dmg stacks with everything
(25% stacking fort, combat infusion, 10% melee alacrity and +5 resistance are also awesome).

I have this coupled with the TOD WarPriest set (+2 exceptional to hit) and Epic Duelist's Leathers - providing another +2 to hit.

Is this a bad combination?


What about Epic Phiarlan mirror cloak? 30% SR seems good.


Comments appreciated.

[.Revenga.]

to hit has lost a very big chunk of importance. At end game a +7 to +10 to hit will provide around +5% more hits. So two less or more won't make a noticable difference.

Like ragnar i'm still looking for some last pieces of a 3-piece abishai set as it still provides very nice stats and a good amound of slots. Although i'd never consider going for the claw set as extra hate directly translates in less ap due to a higher subtle backstabbing line needed. I like my ap alot. I'd go for the PDK gloves instead if you really want a good amound of h amp on those slots.

The hide of goristo is a very nice item but it only comes fully to it's power when you can use the +10stunning that you can get on it. Don't know if many rogues run around with stunning blow but i expect some 18/2 rogue monks love this item.

[wax_on_wax_off]

to hit has lost a very big chunk of importance. At end game a +7 to +10 to hit will provide around +5% more hits. So two less or more won't make a noticable difference.

Like ragnar i'm still looking for some last pieces of a 3-piece abishai set as it still provides very nice stats and a good amound of slots. Although i'd never consider going for the claw set as extra hate directly translates in less ap due to a higher subtle backstabbing line needed. I like my ap alot. I'd go for the PDK gloves instead if you really want a good amound of h amp on those slots.

The hide of goristo is a very nice item but it only comes fully to it's power when you can use the +10stunning that you can get on it. Don't know if many rogues run around with stunning blow but i expect some 18/2 rogue monks love this item.

Hide/monk fail? Never heard of tactics DCs on the hide either.

[destiny4405]

Hide/monk fail? Never heard of tactics DCs on the hide either.

it can have one of One of the following tactics bonuses: Shatter +10, Stunning +10, Vertigo +10 or Tendon Slice +10.

a monk splash would be uncentered tho.

[Miow]

I feel there are many legit setups out there for rogues..

The fabricator's set seems pretty nice when you think of haste boost and twf the chances of it going off are pretty good ?

[.Revenga.]

Hide/monk fail? Never heard of tactics DCs on the hide either.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Hide_of_the_Goristro

It can be quite a grind to get hold of the right combination. I guess the Tendon slice might be useful too.

[thomhas_of_mabar]

http://ddowiki.com/page/Hide_of_the_Goristro

It can be quite a grind to get hold of the right combination. I guess the Tendon slice might be useful too.

It depends on whether or not Tendon Slice works on Epic mobs/monsters and bosses.

[wax_on_wax_off]

it can have one of One of the following tactics bonuses: Shatter +10, Stunning +10, Vertigo +10 or Tendon Slice +10.

a monk splash would be uncentered tho.

I see, must admit I don't look closely at armour as my 4 toons all wear robes/outfits.

[RS-Makk]

It definitely looks nice. I don't think Tendon Slice works on red named, but seems like a nice enough option for trash.

Although I wonder if the Black Dragonscale is still better from a point of view (sacrifice all the night defense you get out of the Hide, to get the nice DPS stuff from the Dragonscale).

[.Revenga.]

Yes, black dragonscale certainly is a strong choice. I'm thinking of making one for raid purposes where i don't need the extra heal amp that i have on my DT set (I'm really addicted to heal amp due to alot of solo'ing/shortmanning)

[Ragnar7]

Like ragnar i'm still looking for some last pieces of a 3-piece abishai set as it still provides very nice stats and a good amound of slots. Although i'd never consider going for the claw set as extra hate directly translates in less ap due to a higher subtle backstabbing line needed. I like my ap alot. .

I end up tanking a fair amount on my rogue. In fury I have almost 900 hp, and I have hit over 1000 with a lot of buffs. If I am doing something where I know I will not be the tank I run in shadowdancer for the extra threat reduction and if that doesn't work I'll throw on tinker's goggles for less dps and threat.

Edit: I have also decided to go for Epic mari chain, as it is now a light armor and I only need a seal. The red scale would benefit my bard more and he has all the favor and commendations anyway.

[sephiroth1084]

I end up tanking a fair amount on my rogue. In fury I have almost 900 hp, and I have hit over 1000 with a lot of buffs. If I am doing something where I know I will not be the tank I run in shadowdancer for the extra threat reduction and if that doesn't work I'll throw on tinker's goggles for less dps and threat.

That may be, but I don't think tanking on a rogue is common, and it certainly isn't ideal. If you're looking at DPS, you're losing a ton of it if you have dedicated aggro.

[Ragnar7]

That may be, but I don't think tanking on a rogue is common, and it certainly isn't ideal. If you're looking at DPS, you're losing a ton of it if you have dedicated aggro.

I disagree, if you have an improved deception item, haste boost 4 and twf you are pretty much always getting sneak attack. If I wasn't getting it basically the entire time I wouldn't be able to hold aggro.

[destiny4405]

I disagree, if you have an improved deception item, haste boost 4 and twf you are pretty much always getting sneak attack. If I wasn't getting it basically the entire time I wouldn't be able to hold aggro.

purple names are immune to deception.

[Ragnar7]

purple names are immune to deception.

I just looked up a list of purple named bosses and for most of them it doesn't really matter as they already have random aggro or are low level bosses. Can you point me to a thread where this is proven? I know I have definitely tanked CAD, Suulo and Judge/Jailer before while getting sneak attack and I don't understand how that was possible if deception doesnt work on them.

[karl_k0ch]

Some kind of necro, but I was on vacation and I'm going for the following:

Helm: PDK (+7 Con, +2 iStr)
Bracers: Min2 (45 HP, HFort)
Goggles: Tharne's
Necklace: +6 Cha of Major Luck (+6 Res, +2 Good Luck)
Trinket: Prowess (+3 Str)/Litany
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
Armor: Utility Vest (+2 iInt, +6 Dex, Blue: Toughness)
Gloves: PDK (+7 Str, +2 iCon, 30% Hamp)
Belt: Colethenis's
Ring 1: Epic Ring of the Stalker (+6 Int, GFL)
Ring 2: Ravager (+1 eStr, 20% healing amp)
Boots: Madstone, Cannith, Anchoring

[destiny4405]

I just looked up a list of purple named bosses and for most of them it doesn't really matter as they already have random aggro or are low level bosses. Can you point me to a thread where this is proven? I know I have definitely tanked CAD, Suulo and Judge/Jailer before while getting sneak attack and I don't understand how that was possible if deception doesnt work on them.

got changed recently. deception was making a bit of pathing problems, so purple named got immune.

[Rauven]

Armor: Utility Vest (+2 iInt, +6 Dex, Colorless: +1 eInt, Blue: Toughness)

When did eUV lose the colorless slot? I made one recently and it only had a blue slot. The wiki version also only lists a blue slot.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Utility_Vest