Legendary Dreadnought Changes

[Bloodhaven]

Legendary Dreadnought:
Combat Brute now correctly grants +50% damage against helpless targets while active. The three weapon-type specific * Vorpal Strikes now functions as a toggle as described, and correctly applies its Vorpal effect to unarmed attacks. The slashing damage is now correctly only applied when the toggle is activated.


Is the underlined part in reference to: Volcano's edge, Lightning mace, or Anvil of thunder?

If it does refer to the aforementioned, what one specifically works with unarmed attacks?

[rimble]

Legendary Dreadnought:
Combat Brute now correctly grants +50% damage against helpless targets while active. The three weapon-type specific * Vorpal Strikes now functions as a toggle as described, and correctly applies its Vorpal effect to unarmed attacks. The slashing damage is now correctly only applied when the toggle is activated.


Is the underlined part in reference to: Volcano's edge, Lightning mace, or Anvil of thunder?

If it does refer to the aforementioned, what one specifically works with unarmed attacks?

That Legendary Dreadnought entry mysteriously ends at 'specific', then there should be a carriage return, and then the entry for Vorpal Strikes begins (which shouldn't be under Legendary Dreadnought, but it is). Like so:

Legendary Dreadnought:
* Combat Brute now correctly grants +50% damage against helpless targets while active. The three weapon-type specific
* Vorpal Strikes now functions as a toggle as described, and correctly applies its Vorpal effect to unarmed attacks. The slashing damage is now correctly only applied when the toggle is activated.

[Bloodhaven]

Still looks fishy even with the punctuation as you would have it.

Anyone from the DDO team feel like clarifying this?

[rimble]

Still looks fishy even with the punctuation as you would have it.

Nah, it's really pretty clear. I'm a Monk looking to go LD too, so I'm also sad at the purposeful exclusion of Unarmed in parts of that tree, but for whatever reason that's how they're playing it. We don't get to use Pulverizer either. Wonder if it's worth taking the Short Swords out now?

[Bloodhaven]

Legendary Dreadnought is my tree of choice on my monk. I have all of my ED's to level 5 and this one seems to add the most DPS. I will look into changing it to some other tree now.

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[Eladrin]

It should be:

• Legendary Dreadnought: Combat Brute now correctly grants +50% damage against helpless targets while active.
  
  
• The three weapon-type specific Overwhelming Critical feats have been merged into a single feat that affects all weapons used by the character. Weapon Focus is no longer required.
  
  
  Overwhelming Critical
  Prerequisite: Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Critical (bludgeoning, piercing, slashing, ranged, or thrown)
  Benefit: When rolling a 19 or 20 on an attack your critical damage multiplier is increase by +1.
• Vorpal Strikes now functions as a toggle as described, and correctly applies its Vorpal effect to unarmed attacks. The slashing damage is now correctly only applied when the toggle is activated.

[Missing_Minds]

I had a feeling that was several corrections mashed into one. I got most of it parsed right, bit didn't under stand the 2nd one completely. Thanks.

[maddmatt70]

It should be:

• Legendary Dreadnought: Combat Brute now correctly grants +50% damage against helpless targets while active.
  
  
• The three weapon-type specific Overwhelming Critical feats have been merged into a single feat that affects all weapons used by the character. Weapon Focus is no longer required.
  
  
  Overwhelming Critical
  Prerequisite: Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Critical (bludgeoning, piercing, slashing, ranged, or thrown)
  Benefit: When rolling a 19 or 20 on an attack your critical damage multiplier is increase by +1.
• Vorpal Strikes now functions as a toggle as described, and correctly applies its Vorpal effect to unarmed attacks. The slashing damage is now correctly only applied when the toggle is activated.

So will you be making a new ranged cleave and ranged great cleave feat? How about the cleave and greave cleave also applies to two weapon fightings offhand? Unarmed attacks with cleave and great cleave leads to a double strike proc or something like that?

[jakeelala]

So will you be making a new ranged cleave and ranged great cleave feat? How about the cleave and greave cleave also applies to two weapon fightings offhand? Unarmed attacks with cleave and great cleave leads to a double strike proc or something like that?

I'm with Norg, wheres the love for everyone not swinging a SoS? Give me a break...

[kingfisher]

I'm with Norg, wheres the love for everyone not swinging a SoS? Give me a break...

you'll get nothing and like it!


****** design turbine, but very economical nerfing on your part, way to **** over twf, unarmed, snb, and ranged all at the same time! grats! bout time too, those combat types were getting just about relevant and needed a slapdown.

[Havok.cry]

Its not actually a nerf to ranged. Before there was NO ranged overwhelming critical feat. Now there is. Still a sucky design, but getting something we didn't have before isn't a nerf. Also a slight change to many fighter AAs would easily accommodate this feat. Maybe a few other builds too.

[Mathermune]

The ability has been changed. Pray they don't change it any further.

[Moonsickle]

Nah, it's really pretty clear. I'm a Monk looking to go LD too, so I'm also sad at the purposeful exclusion of Unarmed in parts of that tree, but for whatever reason that's how they're playing it. We don't get to use Pulverizer either. Wonder if it's worth taking the Short Swords out now?

Kinda like that "off-centered" thing in the GrandMaster ED... I mean anything that does damage is not useful to any armor wearing/ non-monk weapon character.


Whole left column of GMoF which are needed to trigger Everything Is Nothing... is truly Nothing if off-centered



as for Dreadnaught...

while a few extras clicks of Action Boosts is always nice...
if you don't have Power Attack... you can't have Cleave/Great Cleave add if you already have Action Boosts...

means you don't get a lot damage, if any with the change to OC out of Dreadnaught... and a pretty barren tree.




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[twigzz]

Its not actually a nerf to ranged. Before there was NO ranged overwhelming critical feat. Now there is. Still a sucky design, but getting something we didn't have before isn't a nerf. Also a slight change to many fighter AAs would easily accommodate this feat. Maybe a few other builds too.

There is still no OC ranged feat IMO. It's like making a sorc take PA, cleave and g. cleave to be able to take maximize. Useless. I don't understand the reasoning for it at all.

You are right that it's not a nerf to ranged, it's just a buff for everyone else except the main ranged classes that are pure.

[Hecore]

I'd really like to see the requirements changed to:

Requires Improved Critical (any)

Requires one of:
Greater Two-Weapon Fighting
Greater Two-Handed Fighting
Improved Precise Shot

Requires one of:
Strength 23
Dexterity 23

This would really open the feat up to non barbs, ranged characters, and anyone that isn't invested in strength.