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    I would like to craft DR-breaking handwraps for my monk (the grass looks greener on the dark side) but have heard about various bugs so I wonder what works and what doesn't?

    - Will the damage from crafted Holy/Holy Burst stack with the damage from a ToD ring with Holy Burst?
    - Will silver/adamantine/cold iron handwraps with crafted Holy/Holy Burst break DR on their own? (if not using ToD ring)
    - Do Bane/Greater Bane work on crafted handwraps?
    - Does it matter if the base handwraps are 'Absolute Min Level 20+' or not? (except for the extra d6)
    - Am I right that holy burst greater bane is the way to go, or is there something better?

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    holy - yes, holy burst - no
    yes
    probably
    don't know
    you're probably not right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_D View Post
    I would like to craft DR-breaking handwraps for my monk (the grass looks greener on the dark side) but have heard about various bugs so I wonder what works and what doesn't?

    - Will the damage from crafted Holy/Holy Burst stack with the damage from a ToD ring with Holy Burst?

    Holy will, Holy burst won't

    - Will silver/adamantine/cold iron handwraps with crafted Holy/Holy Burst break DR on their own? (if not using ToD ring)

    Yes they will break dr

    - Do Bane/Greater Bane work on crafted handwraps?

    I believe so, but haven't made any myself

    - Does it matter if the base handwraps are 'Absolute Min Level 20+' or not? (except for the extra d6)

    You just won't be able to use them before level 20.

    - Am I right that holy burst greater bane is the way to go, or is there something better?

    You will want to only use holy if you are using a tod ring. Screaming is another option

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relenthe View Post
    You just won't be able to use them before level 20. Also handwraps don't get an extra d6 for being min level 20 like other weapons since they are based of monks levels and such
    Wraps with AML 20 have an inherent +1W damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    Wraps with AML 20 have an inherent +1W damage.
    Oh Alright that's good to know, my mistake.
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    The answers so far are rather wrong.

    Holy on crafted wraps does not stack with tod ring holy burst, and never has. This is a known bug.

    Crafted DR breakers do work though you probably don't want to do holy/holy burst, instead just use the
    ToD ring for the good portion of the bypass.

    Banes and greater banes work on crafted (and all other) handwraps only partially. The extra damage
    works but the to-hit does not. (I have bug reported this and got a forum pm thanking me and saying
    it's a known issue.) (POSSIBLY FIXED)

    By far the best thing to craft as dr breakers still are

    Anarchic burst silver of greater lawful outsider bane for devils
    and
    Axiomatic burst cold iron of greater chaotic outsider bane for demons.

    You definitely want aml 20 base wraps since once crafted they will be ml 20 anyhow and
    aml 20 wraps give you an extra +1[w]

    EDIT: It seems that update 15 stealth fixed greater banes on handwraps I only checked epic mabar wraps
    against drowned but I was getting the correct to hit increase on those.
    Last edited by Rawel_San; 08-23-2012 at 08:58 PM. Reason: edit: update on greater banes

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    Default Ummm NO

    Cannith Crafted Holy/Holy Burst does NOT stack with Holy Burst on ToD rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feralthyrtiaq View Post
    Cannith Crafted Holy/Holy Burst does NOT stack with Holy Burst on ToD rings.
    Holy hasn't been fixed yet? ...wishful thinking on my part.
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    Thanks for the help, Rawel_San especially. So far only made Anarchic Burst Silver of Greater Lawful Outsider Bane since that seemed like the most needed one. I think I made a mistake though, probably because I very rarely craft anything: I aimed for ml 21 with Masterful Craftmanship (or whatever it's called) so only made them +4, but ml seems to be capped at 20 so I might as well have made them +5. Is this permanent/WAI or will ml be 'allowed' to exceed 20? Either way, I'm not sure I will make new shards for just another +1 :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_D View Post
    Thanks for the help, Rawel_San especially. So far only made Anarchic Burst Silver of Greater Lawful Outsider Bane since that seemed like the most needed one. I think I made a mistake though, probably because I very rarely craft anything: I aimed for ml 21 with Masterful Craftmanship (or whatever it's called) so only made them +4, but ml seems to be capped at 20 so I might as well have made them +5. Is this permanent/WAI or will ml be 'allowed' to exceed 20? Either way, I'm not sure I will make new shards for just another +1 :/
    Currently all min levels are capped at 20. I don't believe there is any plans to change that but I might be wrong.

    I did a little more testing and not all greater banes have been fixed in particular my greater lawful outsider
    banes were not giving extra to-hit against the prince of swords in against the demon queen on e hard. So it
    might be that non crafted work right or just that the mabar ones do. Not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_D View Post
    Thanks for the help, Rawel_San especially. So far only made Anarchic Burst Silver of Greater Lawful Outsider Bane since that seemed like the most needed one. I think I made a mistake though, probably because I very rarely craft anything: I aimed for ml 21 with Masterful Craftmanship (or whatever it's called) so only made them +4, but ml seems to be capped at 20 so I might as well have made them +5. Is this permanent/WAI or will ml be 'allowed' to exceed 20? Either way, I'm not sure I will make new shards for just another +1 :/
    If you made a +4 prefix of suffix weapon, you can just add on a +5 shard to it instead of remaking a whole new weapon (assuming there are enough Craftable (+x) numbers). You can only overwrite the +enhancement shard, if you want to change prefix or suffix you have to disjunct the whole thing. (But once a while it gets bugged and won't let you overwrite the +enhancement shard. It happened to me once.)

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    I noticed when you craft over the new handwraps (post 14) the base damage is higher then crafting over old wraps.

    Something to keep in mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by librass View Post
    I noticed when you craft over the new handwraps (post 14) the base damage is higher then crafting over old wraps.

    Something to keep in mind
    Hmm, do you mean crafting on high level AML20 items? That would give you the standard additional 1d6 that comes with all AML20 wraps.
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