Are rouges Redundant?

[pie2655]

Are you extremely happy, in a trance-like state of pure joy......just wondering since I have heard that ignorance is bliss.

Rogues cant do DPS, its a known fact. Stop Trolling

[Spoonwelder]

/squelch pie2655

[Lonnbeimnech]

Rogues cant do DPS, its a known fact. Stop Trolling

They do well over 100 damage on a noncrit, not even including weapon damage or their str bonus. With rogue haste boost and a divine power clicky for full bab that's a LOT of damage.

[HatsuharuZ]

rogues can get traps that arties have little or no chance at due to where the box his rogues can do a lot of damage ASSASINATE! rogues are fine

This is true. My Arty had alot of trouble in Vault of Night (part 5) since the trap box was INSIDE the trap. With a jump buff, ablative armor, and Prot from Energy, however, I can usually get the traps that force me to run through them first. It's harder without evasion, but it can be done.

[karpedieme]

Are rouges Redundant? Because Artificers have come out and well provided if they are built well, can out-class a rouge anytime. Rouges are in my mind weak and not good at melee or ranged now because artificers have essentially made them redundant and superfluous. A arti can self repair/heal and can cast as well as rock with crossbows. A rouge has to take the feat where it is just given to an artificer.

Rouge: definition

noun
1. (Clothing & Fashion) a red powder, used as a cosmetic for adding redness to the cheeks
2. (Chemistry / Elements & Compounds) short for jeweller's rouge

Absolutely yes Rouges are redundant in DDO


Rogue: Definiton

noun
1. An unprincipled, deceitful, and unreliable person; a scoundrel or rascal.
2. One who is playfully mischievous; a scamp.
3. A wandering beggar; a vagrant.
4. A vicious and solitary animal, especially an elephant that has separated itself from its herd.
5. An organism, especially a plant, that shows an undesirable variation from a standard.
adj.
1. Vicious and solitary. Used of an animal, especially an elephant.
2. Large, destructive, and anomalous or unpredictable: a rogue wave; a rogue tornado.
3. Operating outside normal or desirable controls:

In the proper hands Rogues are hands down still the best DPS in DDO.......

So yeah Rogues are not redundant

Death to all Rouges and long live the Rogue!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kadriel]

I give the op a 5 out of 10 in obvious trollingness. It was well performed and got over a page of replies, but lack the finesse of the number, self created-self tested formulas, and let's face it, 1 page is not that much nowadays

Now pie, I'm sorry mate, but I'll have to give you 1 out of 10. You could have made it 2, but two posts trying the same trolling plot is just silly.

[Moonsickle]

Don't think you all are understanding the OP when they say "redundant"


since we already have Artificers and now this...




As part of U16... a new class will rear it's ugly head [literally]... The Rouge




this Update will bring an expanded PvP system as you will now be able to fight inside the WHOLE tavern of your choice...
and players will be able to battle with or against this menace in the brand new "Rise of the Drag Queens" adventure pack



Turns out Lolth, wasn't just The Spider Queen... but that she wasn't even actually a she either!



to celebrate the Rouge's arrival... the DDO Store will now stock many new items like Makeups, Handbags and an assorted variety of other fashion nightmares while adding to it's array of already lame items such as Hairstyles & Hair Colorings.






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[DanteEnFuego]

Here is the right way to do it... Redundant?

Making the Perfect Rouge

[Grace_ana]

A well-built rogue will out-kill a well-built arti anytime, provided the rogue has the proper cosmetic pigmentation.

[Adken]

Rogue: Definiton
Vicious and solitary. Used of an animal, especially an elephant.

I want a rogue!! (with the race implications included)

[Hambo]

Are rouges Redundant? Because Artificers have come out and well provided if they are built well, can out-class a rouge anytime. Rouges are in my mind weak and not good at melee or ranged now because artificers have essentially made them redundant and superfluous. A arti can self repair/heal and can cast as well as rock with crossbows. A rouge has to take the feat where it is just given to an artificer.

In my opinion rouges are overrated. I never liked a fake blush.

Rogues, on the other hand are different from Artis... An Arti doesn't end up with 17d6 sneak attack damage bonus, for example.

[Gizeh]

I have to disagree. I play a rouge 12/lipstick 6/mascara 2 multiclass, and it's very efficient.

Although the Tasha's Hideous Laughter effect generated by the lipstick's Duckface prestige enhancement helps a lot.

[luvirini]

Rouge has quite high bluff skill and is good at finding others to do her work, but other than that she seems useless.

[Chauncey1]

Nope.
I have an arti on his 3rd life, (1st life arti, 2nd ranger) and while he is pretty formidable with ranged, casting and even a bit of healing, he is no way superior to my rogue when it comes to trapping.
I can't count how many times I wished I was on my rogue when my arti just couldn't make it through the traps to disarm them.
I look at artificers as a well rounded support unit. Jack of all trades, master of none.
If you want the elite and epic traps done right, bring a rogue.
And I've heard if you set your rogue up right, they can have some of the highest dps in the game.
Haven't tried it yet, so I can't say it's true from personal experience.

[kutscd01a]

/rant on

What the heck class is a 'rouge'? Isn't rouge a color of blush that women put on their faces or the color of some lipsticks? Now a ROGUE on the other hand IS a class in DDO and a very good one a that. Anyone that thinks ROGUES are redundant or useless clearly doesn't understand the class.

/rant off

[Uma-Quixote]

I have a truly bad-ass 2wf 3rd life tr fighter....and she has never done 650 sneak attack damage, which my first life assasin has.

[Nibor]

They do well over 100 damage on a noncrit, not even including weapon damage or their str bonus. With rogue haste boost and a divine power clicky for full bab that's a LOT of damage.

Don't forget that sneak attack damage goes off even on grazing hits. Which, since they dropped grazing hits down to a 2 with the new combat, means your to-hit almost doesn't even matter.

[countfitz]

Are rouges Redundant?

It really depends upon your complexion.

[Horrorscope]

Rogue: Definition

noun
1. An unprincipled, deceitful, and unreliable person; a scoundrel or rascal.

So Palin wrote a book proclaiming herself that?

[MaximusParthas]

Are rouges Redundant? Because Artificers have come out and well provided if they are built well, can out-class a rouge anytime. Rouges are in my mind weak and not good at melee or ranged now because artificers have essentially made them redundant and superfluous. A arti can self repair/heal and can cast as well as rock with crossbows. A rouge has to take the feat where it is just given to an artificer.

my signature alone makes your assertion trollish.