Caught in the Web

[Skavenaps]

Easy fix: stick flawless green dragonscales in the tables. Why? Don't know, maybe Lolth likes to kill green dragons for fun. People will then continue to grind that raid forever.

actually its not a bad idea. yep some chances to get green dragon scales on that chests will make the raid more popular.

[Jujube85]

The purpose of this change is to prevent one person from having to kite it all the time making the raid less fun for them.

So instead lets make it less fun for everyone, misery loves company.

Out of 9 completions, 0 commendations personally, 0 weapons. I've seen maybe an average of 1 or 2 weapons and commendations as a raid per run. There has even been a few runs with 0 weapons and 0 commendations. If I wasn't trying to finish off my dragonscale armor I would not bother with the raid, I'd rather turn in 80 flawless scales then have to find 3 heroic commendations with these drops rates. Best part is the people who pick them up don't even know what they are for half the time.

[Skavenaps]

Best part is the people who pick them up don't even know what they are for half the time.

dont ***** about that. ones loot its ones loot.

[scoobmx]

17 runs now without commendations.. honestly looks like you just need to pick them up on the 20th list or something..

[SealedInSong]

Agree with most all of the sentiments above

1) Use a specific weapon not supported by the raid, idiot? Well, you're an idiot, aren't you? Go stick your scimitar/khopesh/dwarven axe in your belly, idiot. No conflux for you.
2) WORST. XP. EVER. It actually makes me a little bit ill thinking that someone at Turbine said, "Yeah, sounds good. Possibly very resource intensive raid that takes at least forty minutes to complete; commensurate experience reward should be just a little bit above the base experience for epic elite Lords of Dust!"

I love the expansion but a raid with oodles of rednamed drow priestesses, bebiliths, innuuuuumerable trash spiders, an sp-draining boss you have to fight twice, instant-death chasm-flinging goddess hands... and most of them respawn after death as their souls?

Someone needs to be slapped in the face. Repeatedly.

Did I mention I hate this raid

[Ew_vastano]

can quite safely say given up on commendations (as not going for red dragon now)
completed raid on elite
99% certain not gonna run again

40 mins to an hour for 5 or 6 chests of vendor trash yep real incentive

[maddmatt70]

last 16 normal runs 8 piece of raid loot. Last 5 hard runs 5 piece of raid loot. This all for groups of 12 people. Really silly. No 10 reward list so we have to run to 20 to find out if there is a decent list. Going to stick it out I think, but likely will not run it a second 20 just really brutal drop rates .

[Luthe111]

drop rates aside, the raid has difficulty issues in the sense that if u rnt coordinated( A.K.A. the pug) itll bug and fail. assuming u r coordinated epic hard takes an hour, i solo healed, and the only pot anyone drank was curse pots. no mana pots, i didnt even use a heal scroll. wheres the challenge??????? not honestly fun to do. and drop rates make me wanna say let me go do 20 evon 6's and expect a helm of the red dragon from that, probly near the same odds as item drops in this raid -.-