MORE Pay-To-Win!?

[Wraith_Sarevok]

From the U15 beta release notes:

VIP characters now move 10% faster in public spaces! This movement speed boost stacks with all other movement boosts in public areas.

Are you KIDDING me? How unfair is this!? More pay-to-win junk that we Premium and F2P players have to put up with? There is NO way for non-VIPs to emulate this cheap ability.

And no, I'm not complaining that this ability is OP. I realize that it has 0 effect in combat. But I'm complaining about the PRINCIPLE of the thing. Picture this: You're playing a character who hasn't quite gotten his 150 House P favor yet and all the VIP's are running around faster than you. They get to the quest entrances and start complaining that you're too slow. Some might even decide to drop you from the group for wasting their time (not me of course but those people ARE out there).

Or what about that VIP Barbarian/Monk/Ranger who always outruns your Barbarian/Monk/Ranger in town? Or the Risia, Succubus, and Traveler events. They'll always have an edge over you on gathering gifts. Let's not forget who can ship buff the fastest and get back to the quest entrance.

It just makes me sick. DDO is becoming more and more like a horrible xeroxed WoW clone every day.

[Saravis]

LOL, how is moving 10% faster in public areas a "win" mechanic?
It's a convenience mechanic and nothing more, if anything I find 10% to be rather lackluster.

[Bunker]

Wizards and Sorcerers can teleport to areas and reach quest entrances faster. Do they seem to complain that you are too slow getting to quest entrances?

If this is an issue with you, I suggest taking a look at who you group with. Perhaps that is the true issue. 10% added public area run speed for VIPs =/= grouping issues.

-Bunk

[Potta]

Oh grow up. It's a small bonus that VIPs will appreciate and non VIPs won't feel gimped for not having.

This is a perfect example of the F2P model done right.

[Barazon]

If they really want to encourage more people to go VIP, it should be an extra 50 or 100% in public areas. 10% in dungeons would be nice too. Even then it is not a 'win', it only speeds things up.

[sacredguyver]

[Shade]

Wizards and Sorcerers can teleport to areas and reach quest entrances faster. Do they seem to complain that you are too slow getting to quest entrances?

If this is an issue with you, I suggest taking a look at who you group with. Perhaps that is the true issue. 10% added public area run speed for VIPs =/= grouping issues.

-Bunk

I do on mine. Regardless of class.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Royal_Guard_Mask

[Shmuel]

you and i have very different opinions on what makes something p2w

[Memnir]

More VIP perks?

Good.

[Bunker]

I do on mine. Regardless of class.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Royal_Guard_Mask

Wow! Is that coming out in update 15?

[Saravis]

Wow! Is that coming out in update 15?

Lol, thats been around since forever, well at least since I've started the game.

[Hobgoblin]

Lol, thats been around since forever, well at least since I've started the game.

i think someone just rolled a 1 on the sarcasm check

hob

[MRMechMan]

I am premium and have no problem with this change.

[Hobgoblin]

i think someone just rolled a 1 on the sarcasm check

hob

actually- i think i need to file a bug report. the weapon of greater forum bane states that "thou shalt not fail a sarcasms check, even if you roll a natural 1. So spoketh gygax, and gygax has spoken!"

hob

[Bunker]

Lol, thats been around since forever, well at least since I've started the game.

So at least since Feb. 2010?

[sirgog]

OP nearly got me with this one.

Best troll post on these boards in a while.

[Saravis]

So at least since Feb. 2010?

Yep, drops in Restless Isles. No idea when that came out, but it was around when I came on.

[pearlharbor66]

Wow, when did a 10% speed bonus become p2w?

[arkonas]

From the U15 beta release notes:



Are you KIDDING me? How unfair is this!? More pay-to-win junk that we Premium and F2P players have to put up with? There is NO way for non-VIPs to emulate this cheap ability.

And no, I'm not complaining that this ability is OP. I realize that it has 0 effect in combat. But I'm complaining about the PRINCIPLE of the thing. Picture this: You're playing a character who hasn't quite gotten his 150 House P favor yet and all the VIP's are running around faster than you. They get to the quest entrances and start complaining that you're too slow. Some might even decide to drop you from the group for wasting their time (not me of course but those people ARE out there).

Or what about that VIP Barbarian/Monk/Ranger who always outruns your Barbarian/Monk/Ranger in town? Or the Risia, Succubus, and Traveler events. They'll always have an edge over you on gathering gifts. Let's not forget who can ship buff the fastest and get back to the quest entrance.

It just makes me sick. DDO is becoming more and more like a horrible xeroxed WoW clone every day.

are you serious? its in public areas only. you really going to complain about vips running faster. seriously go find something worth it. this is not one of them

[GeneralDiomedes]

Go phone in to a talk show or something, sounds like you have issues that need exploring.