Weapons that are not STR attack/dmg mod.

[liltova]

Does anyone have a list of the weapons that do not have a STR attack/dmg mod. (i.e. Epic Dynastic Falcata)

or could anyone make that short list real fast? I'm just curious.

[Nyxianne]

I'm working on it a bit, but running out of time before I have to get ready to go to work today so here's a small list to get you started.

Treason: +5 Shortsword (Reaver's Fate - Gianthold)
Keen, Sneak Attack Bonus +3, Deception, Treason, Armor-Piercing - 10%; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.
Upgrade: Sneak Attack Bonus +3 & Armor-Piercing - 10% → Sneak Attack Bonus +4 & Armor-Piercing - 15%

Elyd Edge: +1 Rapier (Corroded Rapier upgrade - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Charisma +1, Devotion II, Silver, Alchemical, Anthem; uses Cha mod for atk, Str mod for damage

Epic Elyd Edge: +6 Rapier (Elyd Edge Epicced - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Charisma +7, Silver, Alchemical, Superior Devotion VI, Songblade, Anthem, Empty Red Augment Slot; uses Cha mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest

Staff of Nat Gann: +1 Quarterstaff (Chronoscope)
Dodge Bonus +1, Dexterity +4, Sneak Attack Bonus +2, Silver, Alchemical; uses Dex mod for Attack and Damage

Epic Staff of Nat Gann: +6 Quarterstaff (Staff of Nat Gann Epicced - Chronoscope)
Dexterity +7, Dodge+4, Sneak attack +5, Silver, Empty Red Augment Slot; uses Dex mod for Attack and Damage

Epic Staff of Inner Sight: +6 Quarterstaff (Chains of Flame - Sands of Menachtarun)
Intelligence +7, Spell Focus Mastery +2, Empty Colorless Augment Slot, Empty Violet Augment Slot; uses Cha mod for Damage and Int mod for Attack

Breeze: +5 Quarterstaff (Ascension Chamber - Necropolis 4)
Telekinetic, Vertigo +6, Paralyzing; uses Dex mod for Attack and Damage

Brine Shaman's Staff: : +2 Quarterstaff (End reward {not Guard Duty} - Three Barrel Cove)
Spellcasting Implement, Glaciation, Magnetism, Minor Ice Lore, Minor Lightning Lore, Tidal, Spell: Gust of Wind; uses Cha/Int mod for Attack, Str mod for Damage

Chieftain's Spear: +2 Quarterstaff (Brine chest - Three Barrel Cove)
Bleed, Maiming, Puncturing, 19-20/x2; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.

Moonhowl Axe: +2 Greatclub (Hafgrim Moonhowler - Three Barrel Cove)
Proficiency: Greatclub granted, Screaming; uses Cha mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest

Sky Pirate's Dagger: +2 Dagger (Ilmarin Tychonn - Three Barrel Cove)
Keen; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.

Tiefling Assassin's Blade: +2 Shortsword (Ithun Orenah - Three Barrel Cove)
Keen, Wounding, Poison; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.

Midnight Greetings: +2 Kukri (Filthy Kukri - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Deception, Assassin's Training; uses Str mod for Attack and Int mod for Damage

Epic Midnight Greetings: +6 Kukri (Midnight Greetings Epicced - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Deception, Finesse, Disintegration, Assassin's Training, Empty Red Augment Slot; uses Int mod for damage and Dex or Str mod for Attack - whichever is highest



P.S. These are copied and pasted from DDOwiki.com and may not be up to date with the spellpower listings - they often have the old way of listing spellpower (i.e. Devotion VI, Greater Potency IV) instead of the newer +333 implement/equipment bonus to __________ spellpower.

[elraido]

Epic Dynastic Falcata uses Charisma.

[Barazon]

The Envenomed Blade (both the normal and epic versions) from the Web of Chaos series uses the higher of dex or str.

[liltova]

I'm working on it a bit, but running out of time before I have to get ready to go to work today so here's a small list to get you started.

Treason: +5 Shortsword (Reaver's Fate - Gianthold)
Keen, Sneak Attack Bonus +3, Deception, Treason, Armor-Piercing - 10%; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.
Upgrade: Sneak Attack Bonus +3 & Armor-Piercing - 10% → Sneak Attack Bonus +4 & Armor-Piercing - 15%

Elyd Edge: +1 Rapier (Corroded Rapier upgrade - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Charisma +1, Devotion II, Silver, Alchemical, Anthem; uses Cha mod for atk, Str mod for damage

Epic Elyd Edge: +6 Rapier (Elyd Edge Epicced - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Charisma +7, Silver, Alchemical, Superior Devotion VI, Songblade, Anthem, Empty Red Augment Slot; uses Cha mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest

Staff of Nat Gann: +1 Quarterstaff (Chronoscope)
Dodge Bonus +1, Dexterity +4, Sneak Attack Bonus +2, Silver, Alchemical; uses Dex mod for Attack and Damage

Epic Staff of Nat Gann: +6 Quarterstaff (Staff of Nat Gann Epicced - Chronoscope)
Dexterity +7, Dodge+4, Sneak attack +5, Silver, Empty Red Augment Slot; uses Dex mod for Attack and Damage

Epic Staff of Inner Sight: +6 Quarterstaff (Chains of Flame - Sands of Menachtarun)
Intelligence +7, Spell Focus Mastery +2, Empty Colorless Augment Slot, Empty Violet Augment Slot; uses Cha mod for Damage and Int mod for Attack

Breeze: +5 Quarterstaff (Ascension Chamber - Necropolis 4)
Telekinetic, Vertigo +6, Paralyzing; uses Dex mod for Attack and Damage

Brine Shaman's Staff: : +2 Quarterstaff (End reward {not Guard Duty} - Three Barrel Cove)
Spellcasting Implement, Glaciation, Magnetism, Minor Ice Lore, Minor Lightning Lore, Tidal, Spell: Gust of Wind; uses Cha/Int mod for Attack, Str mod for Damage

Chieftain's Spear: +2 Quarterstaff (Brine chest - Three Barrel Cove)
Bleed, Maiming, Puncturing, 19-20/x2; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.

Moonhowl Axe: +2 Greatclub (Hafgrim Moonhowler - Three Barrel Cove)
Proficiency: Greatclub granted, Screaming; uses Cha mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest

Sky Pirate's Dagger: +2 Dagger (Ilmarin Tychonn - Three Barrel Cove)
Keen; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.

Tiefling Assassin's Blade: +2 Shortsword (Ithun Orenah - Three Barrel Cove)
Keen, Wounding, Poison; uses Dex mod or Str mod for Attack and Damage, whichever is highest.

Midnight Greetings: +2 Kukri (Filthy Kukri - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Deception, Assassin's Training; uses Str mod for Attack and Int mod for Damage

Epic Midnight Greetings: +6 Kukri (Midnight Greetings Epicced - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Deception, Finesse, Disintegration, Assassin's Training, Empty Red Augment Slot; uses Int mod for damage and Dex or Str mod for Attack - whichever is highest



P.S. These are copied and pasted from DDOwiki.com and may not be up to date with the spellpower listings - they often have the old way of listing spellpower (i.e. Devotion VI, Greater Potency IV) instead of the newer +333 implement/equipment bonus to __________ spellpower.

Thank you, very helpful. +1.

[Mathermune]

Doublecross bow from the web of chaos chain . Light repeater uses INT or DEX

[Violith]

Epic Midnight Greetings: +6 Kukri (Midnight Greetings Epicced - Sentinels of Stormreach)
Deception, Finesse, Disintegration, Assassin's Training, Empty Red Augment Slot; uses Int mod for damage and Dex or Str mod for Attack - whichever is highest
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not sure about the regular one, but the epic version uses Dex/str for Attack and damage, whichever is higher. Intel determines the modifier on the weapon (min of +6, max of +10)

[Sylvenon]

Epic Midnight Greetings will use Int or Dex Mod for dmg, whichever is higher.

[Crazeee]

not sure about the regular one, but the epic version uses Dex/str for Attack and damage, whichever is higher. Intel determines the modifier on the weapon (min of +6, max of +10)

The base item only uses DEX for damage and attack, the INT bonus is only on the epic version. (Wiki is outdated on this item)

[lauhon]

When i dual wield a rapier in main hand, and the epic midnight greetings in the offhand....

The rapier uses my STR for attack mod, also uses my STR for damage mod.

in the offhand the epic midnight greetings uses my dex for both.

So it's still broken, unless you dual wield 2 epic midnight greetings.

Enjoy farming for the 2nd one.

The devs need to really look into this.. i'd love to play my assassin again.

[FuzzyDuck81]

Theres also forgotten light from the high road chain which uses higher of WIS or STR for to-hit & damage... 3 versions depending on difficulty but has devotion & radiance spellpower, implement bonus, double crit range & greater/supreme good... very nice piece of kit for clerics who want some ability in melee without losing any casting power.

[shadereaper33]

When i dual wield a rapier in main hand, and the epic midnight greetings in the offhand....

The rapier uses my STR for attack mod, also uses my STR for damage mod.

in the offhand the epic midnight greetings uses my dex for both.

So it's still broken, unless you dual wield 2 epic midnight greetings.

Enjoy farming for the 2nd one.

The devs need to really look into this.. i'd love to play my assassin again.

eMG doesn't actually give you weapon finesse. It merely allows you to use the weapon as if you had the weapon finesse feat.

Finesse: this weapon has a small air elemental bound to it. the wielder can use a finesse weapon as if he had the weapon finesse feat.

the key part is "as if he had", which means it doesn't actually give you the feat. WAI.

[bward76]

Does anyone have a list of the weapons that do not have a STR attack/dmg mod. (i.e. Epic Dynastic Falcata)

or could anyone make that short list real fast? I'm just curious.

http://ddowiki.com/page/List_of_weap...or_damage_mods

[FuzzyDuck81]

Thats a handy list

Also i'd forgotten about the bouquet... now I'm imagining a party of bards & fvs (plus maybe an arty for DR bypass) beating EH chronoscope (or any other raid where the boss only has 1 DR type.. so CiTW?) with flower power!