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    Default max TWF vs max THF U14

    Doing some more accurate calculations to compare single targed barbarian twf and thf fighting with LD epic destiny.
    After calculations, THF fighting is best single targed DPS and great AOE.

    Here is calculations and conclusions:

    Calculations:
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    thf Barbarian 20 horc ESOS ED Legendary Dreadnaught 3 swing autocleave twitch hasted
    3 swing autocleave metod: swing-swing-cleaveattack(supreme,great or momentum).

    main / offhand
    10/10 .. weapon
    7/7 .. inspire courage
    1/1 .. prayer
    22/22 .. power attack
    4/4 .. greater wulkor
    2/2 .. shintao
    4/4 .. orc enhacement
    7 .. deadly weapon
    3.5 .. improved power attack
    7 .. combat brute
    5 .. advancing blow
    72.5 .. overall

    .......... .. 38 unbuffed str (20bse, 6 lvlup, 8 item, 4 tome)
    ........... .. 8 str (mighty rage)
    ........... .. 6 str (power rage iv)
    ........... .. 2 str (frenzy)
    ........... .. 4 str (death frenzy)
    ........... .. 2 str (rage)
    ........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
    ........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
    ........... .. 2 str orc enhacement
    ........... .. 1 str fighter
    ........... .. 0 str defender
    ........... .. 1 str LD
    ........... .. 3 insightful str
    ........... .. 2 guild ship
    ........... .. 6 psionic str
    ........... .. 2 str potions from amrath
    ........... .. 2 barbarian capstone
    55 .. 83 str (total)
    7 .. autocleave bonus damage: supreme cleave + great cleave + momentum swing = (2w+2w+5w)/3 = 3w, 1/3 attacks are cleaves, 3x(2d6)/3=7
    (calculation include 50% chance that cleave and supreme cleave reset cooldown of momentum swing)
    134.5 .. total damage modifier
    152 .. avg regular damage (ESOS = 17.5)
    1344 .. avg crit damage x8 (19-20 +16 seeker)
    504 .. avg crit damage x3 (15-18 +16 seeker)
    98.8 .. weighted reg damage (*13/20)
    134.4 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
    100.8 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
    21.0 .. Average vicious + greater damage (6d6)
    355 .. subtotal

    7 .. berserker bonus
    6.5 .. tunnel vision - twist from fotw
    5.4 .. sense weakness 25%*1d8+25%1d12+25%1d20 = 1.125+1.625+2.625=5.375 - twist from fotw
    18.9 .. total weapon effects

    373.9 .. base + weapon effects


    glancing blow dps:
    glancing blow damage: 50% thf feats + 10% capstone + 10% wild weapons(twist from fotw) = 69% regular dmg to glancing blow
    glancing blow proc: first and third attack have glancing blow = 2/3*100= 66%
    (0.69*regular dmg+vicious)*0.66 = 84.1
    damage per hit + glancing blow 458



    hasted(15%) 3 swing autocleave: 118 swings ~ http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=349448

    DPS vs 0% fortification

    mainhand base*118/60

    DPS 900.7

    +25%damage boost:

    mainhand 355-21*1.25+21+18.9=457.4
    glancing blow 152*1.25=190*0.69+21*0.66=101.6
    mainhand + glancing 449.15+61.4=559

    DPS=mainhandbase*118/60 = 559*118/60

    DPS 1099.4

    +30% haste boost

    ~133 attacks per minute (not tested now, semiacurrate attacks)

    DPS=mainhand base*133/60 = 458*133/60
    DPS 1015.2

    +25%damage boost +30%haste boost:

    DPS = mainhandbase*133/60=559*133/60

    DPS 1239.1


    twf Double Frezied Barbarian fighter horc mornh 18/2 LD ED haste
    main / offhand
    7/7 .. weapon
    7/7 .. inspire courage
    1/1 .. prayer
    11/11 .. power attack
    4/4 .. greater wulkor
    2/2 .. shintao
    5.5 .. deadly weapon
    3 .. improved power attack
    5.5 .. combat brute
    5 .. advancing blow
    51/51 .. overall
    .......... .. 38 unbuffed str (20bse, 6 lvlup, 8 item, 4 tome)
    ........... .. 6 str (mighty rage)
    ........... .. 6 str (power rage iv)
    ........... .. 2 str (frenzy)
    ........... .. 4 str (death frenzy)
    ........... .. 2 str (rage)
    ........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
    ........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
    ........... .. 2 str orc enhacement
    ........... .. 1 str fighter
    ........... .. 1 str LD
    ........... .. 3 insightful str
    ........... .. 2 guild ship
    ........... .. 6 psionic str
    ........... .. 2 str potions
    35/ 17 .. 79 str (total)
    86/68 .. total damage modifier
    99.8/81.8 .. avg regular damage (mornh 2.5d10)
    926.4/782.4 .. avg (19 or 20 x8+16) crit damage (mornh)
    347.4/293.4 .. avg (15 - 18 x3+16) crit damage (mornh)
    64.9/53.2 .. weighted reg damage (*13/20)
    92.6/78.2 .. weighted (19 or 20) crit damage (*2/20)
    69.5/58.7 .. weighted (15 - 18) crit damage (*4/20)
    21.0/21.0 .. Average vicious + greater damage (6d6)
    248.0/211.1 .. subtotal

    5.7 .. magma surge
    7 .. berserker bonus
    6.5 .. tunnel vision
    5.4 .. sense weakness
    24.6 .. total weapon effects
    272.6/235,7 .. base + weapon effects

    Hasted DPS(+15% attack speed) 102.2 attacks per minute ~ http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144

    DPS vs 0% fortification

    mainhand base*102.2/60+offhand base*102.2/60*0.8

    464.3+321.2=785.5

    +25%damage boost:

    mainhand 248.0-21*1.25+21+24.6=329.4
    offhand 211.1-21*1.25+21+24.6=283.2

    DPS 561.1+385.9=947.0

    +30% haste boost - 133 attacks per minute ~ http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144

    604.3+418.0

    DPS 1022.3

    +25%damage boost +30%haste boost

    730.2+502.2

    DPS 1232.4
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    Summary:

    THF DPS:

    Hasted(+15% attack speed) DPS: 900.7
    Hasted + dmg boosted(+15% attack speed and +25% dmg boost) DPS: 1099.4
    Hasted + haste boosted(+45% attack speed) DPS: 1015.2
    Hasted + haste boosted + dmg boosted(+45% attack speed and +25% dmg boost) DPS: 1239.1

    TWF DPS:

    Hasted(+15% attack speed) DPS: 785.5
    Hasted + dmg boosted(+15% attack speed and +25% dmg boost) DPS: 947.0
    Hasted + haste boosted(+45% attack speed) DPS: 1022.3
    Hasted + haste boosted + dmg boosted(+45% attack speed and +25% dmg boost) DPS: 1232.4

    Conclusions:
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    THF is max dps, on singletarged or aoe fights, twf is viable only if u are rogue or monk.
    Max thf dps can use drow maul of weapon master with pulverizer, its same as ESOS but cant bypass DR of bosses.



    all calculation using EPIC LD DESTINY.
    Last edited by Khain; 08-18-2012 at 06:51 AM.

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