Monk with a rogue splash

[eldorniliel]

I am trying to build a rogue/monk for someone and would love some feedback or suggestions. I am usually a pure class type, but wanted to try my hand at the multiclass side of things. The idea they wanted for this one is a dual wielding monk using handwraps and fire stance, that also had a fair ability with rogue skills. Not sure how much they will use the flanking and backstabbing bonuses from the rogue, but if there is someone in the party to hold the agro I wanted to leave the options for those open. Any constructive criticism or suggestions are appreciated. :-)

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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(19 Monk \ 1 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 282
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 17
Will: 14

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 21                   21
Dexterity            15                 17                   19
Constitution         12                 12                   12
Intelligence         11                 12                   12
Wisdom               13                 14                   17
Charisma              8                  8                    8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               5                 11                   11
Bluff                -1                 -1                   -1
Concentration         3                 16                   24
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
Disable Device        5                 19.5                 20.5
Haggle               -1                 -1                   -1
Heal                  2                  3                    3
Hide                  5                  6                    6
Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
Jump                  5                 12                   12
Listen                2                  3                    3
Move Silently         6                  7                    7
Open Lock             7                  8                    8
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                5                 21                   22
Spot                  6                 18                   18
Swim                  4                  6                    6
Tumble                5                  6                    6
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Lifting the Veil
Enhancement: The Receptive Earth


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Restoring the Balance


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Curse of the Void
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful
Feat: (Automatic) Moment of Clarity
Enhancement: Rise of the Phoenix


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise IV


Level 17 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Adamantine
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Timeless Body
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II


Level 19 (Monk)
Skill: Disable Device (+1.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Enhancement: Grandmaster of the Sun


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Empty Body
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Eagle Claw Attack
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Search I

[unbongwah]

A monk-splashed rogue like wowo's works quite well, because even though you're giving up the rogue capstone, you gain +10% atk speed w/handwraps (which really makes up for the lost +4D6 SA from capstone), Stunning Fist, WIS AC bonus (which admittedly is less helpful than it was). A rogue-splashed monk, OTOH, is giving up a great capstone to be (AFAICT) a mediocre trapper with +1D6+3 SA - not a worthwhile tradeoff, IMHO, particularly since you're spreading your stat pts very thin; it's tough enough to make a 28-pt monk work w/out needing INT on top of STR, DEX, CON, and WIS.

Also, a couple of feats you picked are pretty weak: Dodge & WF Blunt are lousy feats unless they're pre-reqs for something else you plan to take; meanwhile you didn't take Shintao PrE, one of the best aspects of being light monk, perhaps because you didn't squeeze in all the pre-reqs.