Who wants Spell points? The walking sp pot.

[darkvirus]

I've been toying around with this idea and build for a while. First it was to be 12brd(spellsinger)8Clr(radiant).

After several build attempts I came up with a 12Brd 6Clr 2 rogue. Builds should replanish partys sp with songs and DV, save SP song, buff and heal lastly be able to hangle most traps close to level. I was going to wait for enhancement overhall.

I know leveling will be a pain. the first few levels I can heal but after 9 10ish it will feel usesless. Any ideas to make it better please do.

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Level 20 Neutral Good Half-Elf Male
(2 Rogue \ 6 Cleric \ 12 Bard) 
Hit Points: 264
Spell Points: 1205 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 20
Will: 19

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength              8                 11                   11
Dexterity             8                 11                   11
Constitution         14                 17                   18
Intelligence         15                 18                   18
Wisdom               14                 17                   17
Charisma             18                 26                   30

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               3                  4                    4
Bluff                 8                 14                   14
Concentration         2                 20                   26
Diplomacy             8                 21                   21
Disable Device        6                 27                   28
Haggle                8                 27                   27
Heal                  2                  4                    8
Hide                 -1                  0                    0
Intimidate            4                 10                   10
Jump                  3                  8                    8
Listen                2                  3                    3
Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
Open Lock            n/a                 1                    1
Perform               n/a               33                   33
Repair                2                  4                    5
Search                6                 27                   28
Spot                  6                  7                    7
Swim                 -1                  0                    0
Tumble                3                  4                    4
Use Magic Device      8                 33                   38

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Elyd Edge \par Epic Mask of Tragedy \par Epic Goggles of Time-Sensing \par Epic Utility Vest \par  \par Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Initiate of the Faith
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1.5)


Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1.5)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+7)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+8)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+5)
Skill: Search (+1.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
Spell (1): Focusing Chant


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Rage


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Otto's Resistible Dance
Spell (2): Invisibility


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Spell (2): Glitterdust
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (3): Haste


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
Spell (3): Displacement


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Spell (3): Charm Monster
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality II
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

[Chette]

What exactly do you plan to do with this build other than restore SP? With 12 levels of bard and 6 levels of cleric you do not have access to a single mass-cure spell, or to heal (never mind mass-heal). You are limited to scroll healing via UMD, or using your radiant servant bursts, however with only 6 levels of cleric your bursts will be very underpowered compared to a pure or minimally splashed cleric.

So this build will be a pretty terrible healer with no melee or offensive capability of any sort. You've taken heighten spell, but I don't understand which spells you intend to actually heighten?

Restoring SP is a noble goal, but I'm sure you will find that any conceivable raid or party combination would rather have a member that's contributing to healing, buffing, and killing, as this will reduce their SP consumption far more than your DVs and spellsongs ever could.

[Impaqt]

Where exactly are spell points a problem that this build would make that much of a difference?

Maybe 4 years ago when Pots were rare and spell point pools were low. This would of been an interesting addition to a party.

[Maxallu]

How many sps do you plan to regen? Just go sorc, which provides more sps than you are going to provide anyway and be able to kill lots of stuffs.

[varusso]

OK *without* all the angst:

18 brd / 2 rog

Dont even bother with the cleric levels. Your heals/bursts will be ****, and you will only have access to one (maybe two, but pretty sure its one) tier of DV -- not even remotely worth losing the extra 6 levels of bard

Spellsinger is still an excellent choice, and not just for regening everyone else's blue bar. You can still do a slice of healing and DPS as well. Just grab enchant foci for CCs and Emp Heal if you want to replenish red bars as well as blue bars. SP regen helps alot with keeping YOU in SP for the CCs and Heals. Slide in Heighten if you can as well. Properly geared and with a decent starting INT you can do all of the traps and have plenty of skill points to devote to all of your skills. You can pick up 1-2 THF feats and run around with a big honking sword. Dont forget a few points for STR if you go this route. You dont need to be topping the charts; you just need to be able to smack things down a bit when needed. You can also elect to forgo melee and focus on spells. Not alot of damage spells for you to max/emp, but you can use either (or both) to boost your heal spells further if you go that route.