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    Community Member Anthios888's Avatar
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    Default Consider adjusting Guild Renown overlevel penalty in epic quests

    At level 25, chest levels are still level 21 and 22 on many of the epic dungeons people are running. It's harder to pull renown playing the endgame gauntlet than it used to be. There are a few places to get high level chests, but typical endgame play makes it more difficult than it used to be to pull the renown needed for daily guild contribution. I probably run more level 24+ content and epic elites than the average player, but I still find myself pulling fewer and fewer renown rewards from chests as I level up.

    The adjustment to experience overlevel penalties in level 21+ was a great for the overall community for promoting group play at the epic level. Please consider bringing renown up to speed similarly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    We've increased the base chance of finding trophies in chests, and also increased the "epic difficulty" bonus.

    End rewards should have trophies available very often. (Nearly 100% for Long or Very Long dungeons, in fact.)
    This quote from 2010 reflects the right sentiment. But the numbers support another review with an increased level cap but lack of appropriate level content.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadFloyd View Post
    When you run quests at level, you have a 20% chance of finding renown in chests. For every level you're above the quest level, that chance is reduced by 4%. So if you're 3 levels over, you're looking at an 8% chance to find renown.
    A great idea to encourage us to run level-appropriate quests, but the fact is that many quests with levels of 22 or 23 are going to remain endgame for a while.
    Last edited by Anthios888; 07-28-2012 at 11:09 AM.
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    /signed, ABSOLUTELY.

    It is a huge problem and after the "build your guild" renown fest many guilds are really struggling with decay now.

    Also, epic end rewards often won't give renown-for heroic you ALWAYS get at least a heroic deeds.

    Some end rewards for quests NEVER give renown now, it just has been written out of the code or something.

    Having to pick random loot you don't want when you would rather take even heroic deeds kinda sucks.

    They capped xp penalties at character level 23, they should probably do this for renown as well.

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    Yes, this would be helpful.

    /signed

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    /signed, and +1

    This is the main reason why I'm keeping my toons at lvl 22 and why I avoid joining groups heaving lvl 23 or higher player (unless it's a raid).

    When level cap was 20 Partycrashers was the best guild renown factory in my experience (quick 8 chests per run) and usually I've got one or two Legendaries there (at least one Impressive Trophy was for sure).
    The last time I did Partycrashers on Epic Hard with party lvl 23 and I've got NOTHING (yes, not even Heroic Deeds). I know it was just bad luck, but the average renown it's based on many runs after U14 (200+ chests) and it's not looking good.

    The only good renown drops I know are these to me (since drop rate is similar to the old epics):
    Epic Elite shaft chest in von4 and I farm it with my two lvl 22 toons (quest lvl 24).
    Epic Elite maze chests in von2 (4 chests, but only 2 of them spawns, so lots of runs until ransack happens) and I farm it with my one lvl 22 evasion toon since those are too ugly for my Wiz (quest lvl 23).

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    /signed

    It's at least something to help ease the pain for large guilds who have O.M.G.!!! decay levels.

    and I would +1 ya but I am at limit.( I tried to XD)

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