Best non-epic bracer for a DPS?

[T.T]

Hi!

I am looking for a bracer to my brb dps toon. I dont mind with the ML, but it can´t be epic.

I don´t want Tharne's Bracers, because I already have the googles - and dont want Melee Threat Reduction.

I don´t want Levik´s Bracer, because I already have 20% HA on my Dragontouched.

I cant use Jidz-Tet'ka because I don´t have the pack.

I cant use Fabricator's Bracers because I don´t have the pack.

All others packs (medium and high level) I have.

So what's left?

ty

[Dwarfo]

The lvl 16 Bracers of Wind from the Cannith Challenge Pack are nice.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Bracers_of_Wind

Upgrading them to further tiers allows for more dodge = less damage taken. The blurry is also nice because that also = less damage taken.

[Lleren]

With your limitations I'll suggest Ventilated Bracers from Reavers Fate for the Air Guard. Some other options include Ethereal Bracers from Ghosts of Perdition to swap in to make your attacks ethereal.

Bracers of the Demon's Consort from the Zawabi's Revenge out in the desert is a classic choice as well, though once again more guards.

I will say, if you feel comfortable in the quests required to get dragontouched, then you can handle yourself in the new epic difficulty ranges, and quite likely the old ones as well.

[nivarch]

You may be able to get a random bracer with superior parrying and 10% healing amp (lesser convalescent bracer of superior parrying). That's a nice item (superior parrying is +4 AC and +4 saves, and imo currently saves are the most important layer of defense you can get).

You can probably run the new quests if you have the pack, and replace your DT armor with something else (terrorweb with +8 strength for example, it comes with toughness, inherent resists 5 and resistance +6 which is a nice package), meaning you could use healing amp.

EDIT: greensteel could be an option, but I probably wouldn't make GS on bracer slot considering there are some nice options.

[Nitesco]

Bracers + Gloves of the Claw for +2 attack/damage per hit?

[zwiebelring]

Hi!

I am looking for a bracer to my brb dps toon. I dont mind with the ML, but it can´t be epic.

I don´t want Tharne's Bracers, because I already have the googles - and dont want Melee Threat Reduction.

I don´t want Levik´s Bracer, because I already have 20% HA on my Dragontouched.

I cant use Jidz-Tet'ka because I don´t have the pack.

I cant use Fabricator's Bracers because I don´t have the pack.

All others packs (medium and high level) I have.

So what's left?

ty

Greensteel. The very best customizing option by far (of course, in my opinion). Guards en masse along with options on resistances. Bottle neck is:

- owning the content

- Shavarath signet stones for all the useful guards available (grinding 5 quests over and over and over along with the raid)

Other than that:

- Bracers of The Wind lvl 16 Tier 3. But, since Displacement changed to self only spell, those windy bracers lose attraction to me. You can have Blurry + Displacement clicky on greensteel and you can craft another greensteel item for Air guard with additional stuff. And if you use the craftable +3 on the Bracers you might bump the level close to 20 whereas greensteel remains lvl. 12 without retsricted features compared to a lvl. 12 Bracers of The Wind.

- Ventilated Bracers out of Giant Hold raid

If this is no option whatsoever, you might try and craft Bracers by Cannith Crafting but I guess, you might need a very high crafting lvl./ high lvl.ed crafter for useful features.

[T.T]

You may be able to get a random bracer with superior parrying and 10% healing amp (lesser convalescent bracer of superior parrying). That's a nice item (superior parrying is +4 AC and +4 saves, and imo currently saves are the most important layer of defense you can get).

You can probably run the new quests if you have the pack, and replace your DT armor with something else (terrorweb with +8 strength for example, it comes with toughness, inherent resists 5 and resistance +6 which is a nice package), meaning you could use healing amp.

Where do I find those bracers in bold? Wich quests? Never heard about... =/

Greensteel. The very best customizing option (..) useful features.

Now I am working on Black Dragon Scale Armor, so i will have Haste guard.

Using your knowledge, what are the best options for guard itens for my brb? I was thinking about 2 GS itens (cloak and bracer). Cloak with 45hp + earthguard and a bracer with Smoke II. But changed (20% blur = 20% less chance to be hitten and 20% less chance kill mobs with guard effects) the Smoke II to Disintegrate Guard.

Did it right?

[Nitesco]

Honestly, the mobs that really matter will only get tickled by damage guards. I'd go for Radiance Guard, especially now that you can't get Displaced. That's a very high proc rate blindness effect (-50% miss chance). For GS items I wouldn't waste ingredients on guards, just make a HP item in a safish spot like goggles, belt or maybe cloak. You will probably find better items for other slots. Only reason to have more than one GS item really is if you're a caster and need an SP/Cha skills item.

[Chette]

Where do I find those bracers in bold? Wich quests? Never heard about... =/

They are not bracers, they are an armor, and the poster was indicating that they would make a good replacement for dragon touched armor, which has become rather outdated.

They drop from an optional chest in the new quest "Deal and the Demon", but are unbound and can be purchased on the auction house.

May I ask why the item cannot be epic? The new design of epics since the expansion has made them accessible to all, I am sure you can find a group to complete the quests you wish.

[zwiebelring]

Using your knowledge, what are the best options for guard itens for my brb? I was thinking about 2 GS itens (cloak and bracer). Cloak with 45hp + earthguard and a bracer with Smoke II. But changed (20% blur = 20% less chance to be hitten and 20% less chance kill mobs with guard effects) the Smoke II to Disintegrate Guard.

Did it right?

Well, I am using Ash guard Bracers with inherent Fire Resistance and Fear Immunity + Poison Res. + 6 (doh). The negative level proc.s reliably and helps killing stuff by DC spells in endgame. On top of it I use the Epic Ring of The Stalker, which provides Ghostly. So, I have 20% Blurry, 10% Incorporeal and the option on 50% by Displacement.

My helmet is Smoke 2 + 45 hp. Earthgrab guard comes with Epic Rock Boots (again Challenges in House C.). If I had to take another guard I chose Radiane guard. That gives an indirect Displacement (blind mobs have 50% miss chance on hitting you) AND it is killing DEX mod., so mobs are targets for sneak attack (along with some gear/feats you will deal more damage), and that means Rogues/Assassins/Rog-dps builds will love you. Anyway, if cc is done by disco balls I'd swap in any other guard. Blind mobs will simply run through the disco, so blindness is a protection for them effectively.

For dps every guard is good, which will give or provide a helpless condition. But all in all I noticed that Radiance guard, Epic Rock Boots and Ash guard have the highest proc. rate above other options.

For boss fights, damaging guards might be valid I guess but other players here probably know more about that stuff, I never played a tank so I cannot tell you exactly.

[T.T]

(...) especially now that you can't get Displaced. (...)

Er... wait a minute. If I make a GS item with Displacement clickie, I wouldn´t be able to use it?

Well, I am using Ash guard Bracers (...)

I understand that you are a blue bar and need to lower, the maximum possible, the mob´s save. But, why give a 1d4 lvl drain to a target, if you could be able to kill it with a Disintegration Guard instead (+-450 points of damage)?

=)

[Bilger]

You may be able to get a random bracer with superior parrying and 10% healing amp (lesser convalescent bracer of superior parrying). .

They are not bracers, they are an armor, and the poster was indicating that they would make a good replacement for dragon touched armor, which has become rather outdated.

They drop from an optional chest in the new quest "Deal and the Demon", but are unbound and can be purchased on the auction house.

May I ask why the item cannot be epic? The new design of epics since the expansion has made them accessible to all, I am sure you can find a group to complete the quests you wish.

Umm the poster did say Bracers and they are random loot that drops very rare though.

[Vordax]

They are not bracers, they are an armor, and the poster was indicating that they would make a good replacement for dragon touched armor, which has become rather outdated.

They drop from an optional chest in the new quest "Deal and the Demon", but are unbound and can be purchased on the auction house.

May I ask why the item cannot be epic? The new design of epics since the expansion has made them accessible to all, I am sure you can find a group to complete the quests you wish.

They are bracers, there was a set on the Khyber auction house last night.

[redspecter23]

Pardon me if this sounds trollish. It's honestly not intended to. I'm wondering why threat reduction is a bad thing on a barbarian? In situations where you're swinging on the back of something and a dedicated tank has aggro, wouldn't it be beneficial? Now, there will be situations where the barb could be the tank and it would be a negative, but for general all purpose trash beating, wouldn't less threat be a good thing? I've seen some epic barbarians lately pulling aggro at times when they probably shouldn't be, especially with all the new destiny abilities. Just wondering if it's still a good idea for all barbarians to be maxing threat all the time now.

[T.T]

Pardon me if this sounds trollish. (...) maxing threat all the time now.

haha, np.

And the thread is not about threat reduction, but about a good pair of bracers for my DPS brb.

=)

[redspecter23]

haha, np.

And the thread is not about threat reduction, but about a good pair of bracers for my DPS brb.

=)

I agree Tharne's aren't an optimal choice for various reasons. As mentioned above a set of healing amp/parrying bracers could be a great way to go. You could get as high as 30% amp and +4 parrying for a great combo. If you have plans perhaps for the purple dragon set at some point (which already has 30% amp) then 20% amp bracers with superior parrying (+4) would be a nice addition. The Red Fens Claw set is an old favorite if you have the pack. The basic set is great for low levels and the epic set works for 20+.

[Tobril]

If for whatever reason you don't want epic items
you might reconsider the fabricators set. I can't
think of a better non epic dps bracer when paired
with the rather nifty glove.

Thanes is a decent idea as well. Being able to throttle
threat is more important than it seems on first consideration.

[zwiebelring]

I understand that you are a blue bar and need to lower, the maximum possible, the mob´s save. But, why give a 1d4 lvl drain to a target, if you could be able to kill it with a Disintegration Guard instead (+-450 points of damage)?

=)

Because neg lvls. affect the group caster DCs and let the target lose 5 hp per hit dice immediately, no save, no reduction, additionally it gets -1 to everything per level bestowed and this way it affects tactical DCs of Monks for example. All in all, it supports the groups overall progress.

Except a few mobs with Deathward buff and bosses, I think Ash guard is very useful along with its high proc. rate and direct dmg. guards are useful vs. rednamed/bosses + everything immune to neg. lvl.s.

Numbers aren't anything I put over everything else.

[Sgt_Hart]

Hi!

I am looking for a bracer to my brb dps toon. I dont mind with the ML, but it can´t be epic.

I don´t want Levik´s Bracer, because I already have 20% HA on my Dragontouched.

I'd reconsider Leviks, for the obvious reason that you can changed T2 dragon touch to something more useful. Salt, and protection +5 both spring to mind as options, but without looking at your existing stuff(**** you eternally beta My.ddo.fail), its hard to know where exactly you can upgrade substantially for reasonable amounts of effort.

Thaarak Bracelet Might also be worth consideration, or the Bracers of Deftness 'specialyl if you reconsider and Epic 'em.

At a glance:

1. Thaarak Bracelet
   
   • Acid Breath - 3 Charges (Recharged/Day: 3)
   • Toughness
   • DR 3/Lawful
   • Dodge Bonus 2%
   
   
2. Bracers of Deftness
   
   • +6 Enhancement
   • Bonus Feat: Mobility
   • Tumble +5
   
   
3. Epic Bracers of Deftness
   
   • Armor Bonus +8
   • Feat: Mobility
   • Tumble +11
   • Lesser Swiftness
   • Empty Yellow Augment Slot
   
   

[sirgog]

You may be able to get a random bracer with superior parrying and 10% healing amp (lesser convalescent bracer of superior parrying). That's a nice item (superior parrying is +4 AC and +4 saves, and imo currently saves are the most important layer of defense you can get).

You can probably run the new quests if you have the pack, and replace your DT armor with something else (terrorweb with +8 strength for example, it comes with toughness, inherent resists 5 and resistance +6 which is a nice package), meaning you could use healing amp.

EDIT: greensteel could be an option, but I probably wouldn't make GS on bracer slot considering there are some nice options.

I highly recommend those random lootgen bracers. They actually seem to drop quite a bit (I've looted 2 or 3 of that exact combination myself).

Pardon me if this sounds trollish. *It's honestly not intended to. *I'm wondering why threat reduction is a bad thing on a barbarian? *In situations where you're swinging on the back of something and a dedicated tank has aggro, wouldn't it be beneficial? *Now, there will be situations where the barb could be the tank and it would be a negative, but for general all purpose trash beating, wouldn't less threat be a good thing? *I've seen some epic barbarians lately pulling aggro at times when they probably shouldn't be, especially with all the new destiny abilities. *Just wondering if it's still a good idea for all barbarians to be maxing threat all the time now.

On threat: Usually a Barb wants threat reduction. Pulling aggro on bosses is a bad thing - some will annihilate melee flankers if they turn (EE Lailat and from what I've heard EE LOB too, not to mention the EE Dun'robar Matron who has +4 tomes in her chest). For the situations where you are the best choice to tank something (perhaps a Mistress of Agonies or two in Caught in the Web if your group has no high-HP monks), you can just swap out the -threat items.

That said, there's no -threat items that I feel are a good enough overall package to wear at endgame now.