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    The Hatchery zwiebelring's Avatar
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    It should be free!! Yes, right. We spent our time for gs items, so why not leaving the option whether to destroy features made by excessive grinds in our control?

    For the OP:
    signed, but I didn't see any1 yet, so I guess it doesn't matter if it drops with a rate lim--->0 at 2 places or only 1 place.
    Last edited by zwiebelring; 07-28-2012 at 05:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countfitz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Xynot2 View Post
    Shoud drop RARE in every vale quest and at least every 3rd completion in shroud. I dont see a connection to ToD that would warrant having it drop in ToD
    The connection is TOD rings require the same (second tier) mechanic as Green Steel, and use shards, and it is possible that people purchased Amarath but not Vale (though, HIGHLY unlikely...).

    So that's the connection. Though as previously mentioned, it is entirely likely they DO drop, but at the levels they drop and TOD has stopped being run... maybe one just hasn't dropped yet.

    Not to mention that Shroud ingred's and shards drop in Amrath quests, including chests in ToD. That Arraetrikos is/was likely a General or Lieutenant under First General Horoth (before their little disagreement). That the whole point of The Shroud is to make the Vale of Twilight coterminous with the plane of Shavarath instead of Lammania and green steel is favored by the devil armies of Shavarath, thus the materials from which they are constructed and, by extension, their deconstruction would come from the plane of Shavarath.

    Not sure how anyone couldn't see a connection between the Shroud and Amrath

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    So long as it only spawns in the sully chest.

    I'm opposed to anything diluting the ring loot table further

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauven View Post
    Not to mention that Shroud ingred's and shards drop in Amrath quests, including chests in ToD. That Arraetrikos is/was likely a General or Lieutenant under First General Horoth (before their little disagreement). That the whole point of The Shroud is to make the Vale of Twilight coterminous with the plane of Shavarath instead of Lammania and green steel is favored by the devil armies of Shavarath, thus the materials from which they are constructed and, by extension, their deconstruction would come from the plane of Shavarath.

    Not sure how anyone couldn't see a connection between the Shroud and Amrath
    I see the connection now. I havent gotten a ring yet so I didnt know the shroud ings were part of the crafting. Further, I have bags set to auto gather and dont pay attention to loot other than whether I got a named or not when doing ToD. I know it's hard to imagine but true. And I have been more focused on my TR Cleric (lv 10 currently) so I haven't run one recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fTdOmen View Post
    So long as it only spawns in the sully chest.

    I'm opposed to anything diluting the ring loot table further
    I had suggested earlier that it drop in place of a necklace or belt in the Shadowfiend's chest.

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    /signed

    I'll go one further - epic Devils Assault - i see it as an ideal location for the deconstruction material drop - storyline wise you could fit it, and it's a location that won't see any significant dilution of other desired items in chest drops.

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    So, in order to deconstruct an item that a significant amount of grind was put into - only to get a fraction of the materials back - an item was added to the loot table to dilute the drop rate of construction materials, adding to the grind to make future items (if it were to actualy drop instead of, oh, say - the depleted high energy cells that have been my oh-so-generous reward for elite shrouds of late). I should think the Yugoloth vendor in the shroud/in Amrath would be able to sell such an item without it breaking anything but the grindiness that was, to my understanding, something that was trying to be gotten away from with the idea of deconstruction in the first place....and maybe they Yugo pot vendor could sell them at a discount? Just a thought - rather than having to win the lottery just to deconstruct something like...I don't know....the triple immunity items recently rendered nearly useless by the update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruafei View Post
    I should think the Yugoloth vendor in the shroud/in Amrath would be able to sell such an item without it breaking anything but the grindiness that was, to my understanding, something that was trying to be gotten away from with the idea of deconstruction in the first place....and maybe they Yugo pot vendor could sell them at a discount?
    Nice idea. Still requires the pack(s) purchased, and both notions require running the content, be it getting into the shroud, or snagging enough favor to unlock the pot vendor, so it's not like the store'll take a hit either.

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    Well, i am yet to see one, and yet to hear about somone pulling one. Wasnt in 20th list either.

    Seriously why did you have to waste dev time with a NONEXISTENT *feature*? I have about ~9-10 GS junk (just wasting bankslots) across all characters that i woulnd mind to replace with ingredients RIGHT NOW.

    Apprently we have a different idea of a *feature* tho.

    /Signed for multiple drop spots.
    /Signed for upping droprate
    /Signed for making it a vendor item
    /Signed for being available as Challenge turn-in

    ... Whatever ...

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