Severe decline in pug groups

[WilliamBraveheart]

Anyone else notice a sever decline in pug groups for P2P content?

[Skavenaps]

1-summer
2-ED farming

[Carkolda]

1-summer
2-ED farming

Pretty much it. That, and I've seen some pretty bad pugs, which disincentivizes me from running with a pug. I'm certain I'm not the only one who feels this way. As one guildie put it, "Pugs are like cookies. You only have them once in a while and only if they are good."

[Memnir]

Wit the frequency of the "decline of PUGs" threads, they should be good and well dead by now.


They're not.

[Cyr]

The 16 level range is pretty barren now. Hardly a group I would even think twice about joining during the entire past week of playing.

High level pugs are much more plentiful.

[Ranncore]

how can the level 16 range be dead? there are leveling stones! everyone should have a level 16 character!

seriously tho, that was about the worst idea ive ever seen implemented by turbine. it sure convinced me to stop pugging for that level range.

[mystafyi]

Wit the frequency of the "decline of PUGs" threads, they should be good and well dead by now.


They're not.

its a death of 1000 cuts. sad part its self inflicted wounds.

I disagree with the op's choice of words, severe is much to strong. perhaps gradual downwards trend.

[grgurius]

Everything is so easy that it can be soloed or shortmaned, no reason to waste time pugging, especially with all the stoners running around.


Kinda sad for a group oriented game, don't you think

[Ranncore]

Everything is so easy that it can be soloed or shortmaned, no reason to waste time pugging, especially with all the stoners running around.


Kinda sad for a group oriented game, don't you think

this is exactly why i dont pug anymore. i can shortman anything i want to run without the LIABILITY of a pug, including epic raids.

im copying this from someone else but i thought it was clever - ddo is a massively singleplayer online game.

[DougGlyndwyr]

Or maybe people are coming out of their shells, making contacts, linking up to run quests. I just did, christ, 6 or 7 hours of epics on Ziggystar, rather than watching the Opening Ceremonies of the Olympic Games.

It's a concern.

I'm thinking about taking Alesthane out an' about for PUGging top endish content (16-20), and then maybe Eichenauer for high-mid content (12-16), And Zaathras and Formerprez for everything else on a rotating basis on, oh, say Tuesday and Wednesday.

That said, 11-12 is a dead zone. I can't count the number of times I've signed on and seen tons of "7-10" grouns and then tons of "12-15" groups. Man, I can't wait until I grind out the last few ranks on Natalia...

That said, I'm an Olympic junkie, so I'll be scarce for the next sixteen.

[sirgog]

XP stones have made me very apprehensive about PUGging with 16-19s.

Seeing a good number of people hit LFMs, type 'shr plz' for a non-sharable quest, then sit in the harbor for an hour. I don't mind helping someone find a quest, but when they ignore directions, say nothing but 'share quest' and your LFM said 'already started, know the way' it gets a little old.

Outside that range PUGs are fine.