reincarnate wf sorc

[zafahor]

Okay so hi!
I have FINALLY capped my first charecter on the sarlona server after like 4 years of playing (sad i know) and he is an UBER GIMP! solution= reincarnate XD.
THIS IS A ROUGH DRAFT
this took me like a good half hour and is my basic idea of a reinc sorc wf, i only did it to level 14 because that is about how long fire savant is viable (correct me if i am wrong) then engame i am planning on a earth savant with an ice secondary!
please excuse my HORRIBLE grammar and spelling and setup this is my like 3rd post on the forums
thankyou to ferd for telling my how to use the forums go check out his profile and make his little green light things go up :S if u want lol.
well enjoy please keep the mean comments to a min if u dont agree with something (probably everything) tell me how to fix dont rage
k guyz
zaf

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zafahor hiroshima's revenge
Level 14 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(14 Sorcerer) 
Hit Points: 146
Spell Points: 1398 
BAB: 7\7\12
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 3
Will: 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 14)           (Level 14)
Strength             10                 10                   10
Dexterity             8                  9                    9
Constitution         18                 20                   21
Intelligence         14                 14                   14
Wisdom                6                  6                    6
Charisma             16                 21                   23

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 13
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 13
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 13

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 14)          (Level 14)
Balance              -1                 -1                   -1
Bluff                 3                  6                    6
Concentration         8                 22                   22
Diplomacy             3                  6                    6
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                  6                    6
Heal                 -2                 -2                   -2
Hide                 -1                 -1                   -1
Intimidate            3                  6                   10
Jump                  0                  0                    0
Listen               -2                 -2                   -2
Move Silently        -1                 -1                   -1
Open Lock            n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                 10.5                 10.5
Search                2                  2                    2
Spot                 -2                 -2                   -2
Swim                  0                  0                    0
Tumble                1                  7.5                  7.5
Use Magic Device      5                 14.5                 14.5

Level 1 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Repair (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Traits
Spell (1): Burning Hands
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat


Level 2 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Nightshield


Level 3 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Spell (1): Ray of Enfeeblement


Level 4 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Scorch


Level 5 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Repair Moderate Damage


Level 6 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (3): Acid Blast


Level 7 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Scorching Ray
Spell (3): Fireball


Level 8 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Wall of Fire
Enhancement: Sorcerer Fire Savant I
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Deadly Acid I
Enhancement: Deadly Acid II
Enhancement: Deadly Flame I
Enhancement: Deadly Flame II
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation II
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation III
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation II
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation III
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation II
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 9 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Prodigy
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (3): Rage
Spell (4): Burning Blood
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Deadly Flame III
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation V


Level 10 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Deadly Acid III
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation V


Level 11 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Spell (5): Teleport
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting IV
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting IV
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation VI


Level 12 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (6): Reconstruct
Enhancement: Sorcerer Fire Savant II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I


Level 13 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Enervation
Spell (5): Hold Monster
Spell (6): Flesh to Stone
Enhancement: Deadly Flame IV
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded III


Level 14 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Finger of Death
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting V
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting V
Enhancement: Deadly Acid IV
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation VII

p.s. thankyou to ron for the charecter planner!

[Mr.Spark]

Very first thing I notice is 'Lawful Good' so I can only assume you are taking levels 19-20 as Paladin
If this is not true, go True Neutral instead- Immunity to alignment effects is just a nice little failsafe

I recently tred wf sorc and went

10 Str
8 Dex
20 Con
10 Int
6 Wis
16 Cha

Skills: Concentration, Umd, Jump* (*only after level 7)

18 Air Savant Sorc/2 Paladin

Levels 1-12 Water Savant (SLA Niac's OWNS)
Levels 12-18 Earth Savant (Acid is more viable at this point)
Levels 18+ Air Savant (immunity to knockdown and air jump are insane benifits)

I would reccomend this selection instead...I have not played an Earth higher than 18 so I don't know how effective they are at epic...but Fire Savant is too distasteful at mid-level range when you could be enjoying Cone of Cold, Niacs Biting, and Frost Lance instead...Earth Sav for mid levels lets you enjoy both cold AND fire

If you go water for 1-12, be sure to pick up Heighten at 6 so you make full use of your SLA which will hit for 180~320 without a potency item (maxed & heightened for free)

[Gurei]

If you plan on going pure sorceror, as Mr.Spark has mentioned, you want your alignment to either be true neutral for benefit from stability/item flexibility, or chaotic neutral to take less damage from alignment-based damage spells like chaos hammer and marilith attacks (i think).

As for your skills, I highly advise against putting any points into repair and more than 1 whole point in tumble at level 1. The reason for not putting points into repair is that this does NOT make your reconstruction spells any better, it only gives you a few extra hit points after each rest which mater the least for any class that has self-healing capabilities.
The skills Mr.Spark has laid out are good choices, though I would personally rather put spare points into balance, the fewer seconds you're on your ass unable to heal yourself the better.

Encumbrance can be a problem for some casters since we need to carry around thousands of spell components, but again I wouldn't bother putting points into it just as a personal preference. If you only want to go for concentration, umd, and balance/jump then investing in a +2 int tome before you tr is a great idea and will allow wiggle room in your ability scores for 10 strength. However, if you'd like both balance and jump (or either or none of those plus one or two different skills for one reason or another), then going with 16 CHA, 20 CON, and 12 INT (8 STR) is a very viable option. Having problems with encumbrance then throw down a hage or grab a strength item, that will solve it.

Your savant choice looks good. All the elements from levels 1-5 (no prestiges yet) then dragon blood/ enhancement respec to fire savant from levels 6-vale is very effective with a secondary spec of acid for fire-immune mobs. Fireball and firewall will knock all the enemies out of the park. Even at the early ends of high levels, those crits for 1-2k with delayed blast fireball are awfully nice; making short work of that thaarak hound in the harbinger chain, I guarantee you it'll take less than 5 spells (2-3 with any luck) to kill him all on your own (on elite ofc).

Switching to earth savant afterwards did worry me since my first life was water savant at end-game so damage concerned me, but keeping earthgrab on cooldown and making good use of acid rain with otiluke's is a surefire way to still feel like a nuker. Maybe I was just playing mine wrong, but be sure to make use of your ice secondary, otiluke's and polar ray both helped make up for the lack of burst damage as an earth savant for me.

Side Note: My search-fu is weak, but I know Isharah has a brilliant thread that shows a rather good template to use for sorcs of all races.

[zafahor]

thankyou both very much
if i get some free time later today or tommorow i will redo the planner and put in all of your ideas and remarks! about the lawful good thing i didnt really pay atention to that since i mostly play meele and i didnt know it made a difference for caster so thanks!! mr spark you said for the air savant part that i get immunity to knockdown?? so will i really need balance? also Gurei thankyou very much for all your kind advice i will defenately take all of what you said into consideration also you said keep earthgrab on cooldown i didnt know that was a spell if it is wow cool and thanks!
zaf

[Mr.Spark]

thankyou both very much
if i get some free time later today or tommorow i will redo the planner and put in all of your ideas and remarks! about the lawful good thing i didnt really pay atention to that since i mostly play meele and i didnt know it made a difference for caster so thanks!! mr spark you said for the air savant part that i get immunity to knockdown?? so will i really need balance? also Gurei thankyou very much for all your kind advice i will defenately take all of what you said into consideration also you said keep earthgrab on cooldown i didnt know that was a spell if it is wow cool and thanks!
zaf

If you end on Air Savant (knockdown immunity granted at tier 3 <18>) you can indeed drop balance completely and it won't hurt you for the most part...you'll be immune to: Trip, Improved Trip, Air Elemental Rag-Doll Toss, Cometfall, Cyclonic Blast; this means you are immune to MOST knockdown...I say most because the only ones I can think of that can still pin an Air Savant is Command/Greater Command, however I do not know if the stand-up speed for these two is Will based or Balance based

All in all, air savant ALMOST has no use for balance; you can afford to dump it but that means levels 1-18 you are risking knockdown beatdowns

It all comes down to if you want to Min/Max

[Edit] Earthgrab is Earth Savant's tier 3 ability; no idea if you can metamagic it like you can other sla's

[zafahor]

If you end on Air Savant (knockdown immunity granted at tier 3 <18>) you can indeed drop balance completely and it won't hurt you for the most part...you'll be immune to: Trip, Improved Trip, Air Elemental Rag-Doll Toss, Cometfall, Cyclonic Blast; this means you are immune to MOST knockdown...I say most because the only ones I can think of that can still pin an Air Savant is Command/Greater Command, however I do not know if the stand-up speed for these two is Will based or Balance based

All in all, air savant ALMOST has no use for balance; you can afford to dump it but that means levels 1-18 you are risking knockdown beatdowns

It all comes down to if you want to Min/Max

[Edit] Earthgrab is Earth Savant's tier 3 ability; no idea if you can metamagic it like you can other sla's

ok interesting wondering maby it would be a good idea to ditch balance and just hope you have some good heals on your group untill 18 when u get air savant... but then what would be a nother viable stat to put it in if im already maxing con and umd? apparently jump is good but in my opinion the jump spell when you are about caster lvl 10 thats about as high as you really need to jump ^^
thanks again man and gawd im exited for earth grab such a sick spell
zaf

[Gurei]

I have yet to meet a sorceror that doesn't play around with which savant they are specced for, and i'll warn you that taking away from the sorceror capstone is a path not easily revoked (i.e. 1-2 +[x] hearts to fix). A cheaper fix, but as is setting up skills for only one savant type. If you dump balance planning to go air savant, you'll sure be SOL when you test out water or earth and have 1-2 balance points max.

Earthgrab, a rather fun move and with a cooldown short enough to feel like an additional spell (max+emp DOES work on earthgrab, heighten is thankfully irrelevant). It's DC instead of being based off charisma modifier, like icy prison, the water savant counterpart, has a dc based off your constitution modifier which is naturally high since you're a warforged. However, choosing a savant based off one spell is (in my opinion, many earth savants disagree with me here) as absurd as setting up your skills to match only 1/3 of your viable, equal, end-game options.

Air savant is nice for many situations, but realize their arsenal is heavily reliant on reflex dc's- i've only ever heard air savant*s* complain about facing evasion mobs, and those have been voiced by fleshies, with dc's 1-3 naturally higher than a warforged. I could be mistaken, but air savant seems far more suited towards fleshies than warforged. Not to say there isn't such a thing as an effective warforged air savant, but it's just far more forgiving to their lower charisma/dc's to play a water or earth savant endgame.

The decision is yours, but I strongly advise to not dump balance and plan on being an air savant forever, or dump charisma and go solely con-based for insane dc's on earthgrab- these are hard choices to turn to a different flavor.

[zafahor]

I have yet to meet a sorceror that doesn't play around with which savant they are specced for, and i'll warn you that taking away from the sorceror capstone is a path not easily revoked (i.e. 1-2 +[x] hearts to fix). A cheaper fix, but as is setting up skills for only one savant type. If you dump balance planning to go air savant, you'll sure be SOL when you test out water or earth and have 1-2 balance points max.

Earthgrab, a rather fun move and with a cooldown short enough to feel like an additional spell (max+emp DOES work on earthgrab, heighten is thankfully irrelevant). It's DC instead of being based off charisma modifier, like icy prison, the water savant counterpart, has a dc based off your constitution modifier which is naturally high since you're a warforged. However, choosing a savant based off one spell is (in my opinion, many earth savants disagree with me here) as absurd as setting up your skills to match only 1/3 of your viable, equal, end-game options.

Air savant is nice for many situations, but realize their arsenal is heavily reliant on reflex dc's- i've only ever heard air savant*s* complain about facing evasion mobs, and those have been voiced by fleshies, with dc's 1-3 naturally higher than a warforged. I could be mistaken, but air savant seems far more suited towards fleshies than warforged. Not to say there isn't such a thing as an effective warforged air savant, but it's just far more forgiving to their lower charisma/dc's to play a water or earth savant endgame.

The decision is yours, but I strongly advise to not dump balance and plan on being an air savant forever, or dump charisma and go solely con-based for insane dc's on earthgrab- these are hard choices to turn to a different flavor.

First of all thanks for that long extremely informative response! yeah on my gimp fleshie sorc 20, 80% of my lightening spells (im air savant) the enemies sucsesfully save and i have about 38 cha :/ (slightly exhagerated) so i can imagine what it would be like with a wf :O yeah i think acid would be a fun one for late game and ice early cus niacs early game when it one hits the boss of kobold new ringleader on elite is like wuut! lol then late game i think ice will still be viable? biting cold, cone cold, freezing sphere? idk lol but it sure sounds fun only thing i would be missing out on i guess is earth grab... does water savant have an equivalent?
finally at the end you advised me two choises the second one being to dumb cha then own with earth grab? early game and mid game with no cha? then end game only one spell that i can use that has a rather long cd? and the other option you said was to be an air savant when you advised against it? sorry a little confused please enlighten me.
anyway thanks again for the feedback and wooow lots of views
zaf

[zafahor]

ok guys here is the improved zaf complete water savant acid secondary but i still didnt get enough points for balance... so i think this build is not complete yet
same thing again any recomendations or advice just comment!
thanks for all the feedback
zaf

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zafahor 
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Sorcerer) 
Hit Points: 220
Spell Points: 2197 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 6
Will: 10

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             10                 11                   11
Dexterity             8                 10                   10
Constitution         19                 22                   23
Intelligence         11                 11                   11
Wisdom                6                  6                    6
Charisma             16                 24                   26

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 8
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 8
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance              -1                  0                    0
Bluff                 3                  8                    8
Concentration         8                 29                   29
Diplomacy             3                  8                    8
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                  8                    8
Heal                 -2                 -2                   -2
Hide                 -1                  0                    0
Intimidate            3                  8                    8
Jump                  0                  0                    0
Listen               -2                 -2                   -2
Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  0                    0
Search                0                  0                    0
Spot                 -2                 -2                   -2
Swim                  0                  0                    6
Tumble               n/a                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      5                 19.5                 19.5

Level 1 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Traits
Spell (1): Niac's Cold Ray
Spell (1): Acid Spray
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I


Level 2 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma I


Level 3 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Prodigy
Spell (1): Nightshield
Enhancement: Deadly Acid I
Enhancement: Deadly Ice I
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation II
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation II


Level 4 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Snowball Swarm
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 5 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Melf's Acid Arrow
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation III
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded II


Level 6 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (3): Acid Blast
Enhancement: Sorcerer Water Savant I


Level 7 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (3): Frost Lance
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Deadly Ice II
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation IV


Level 8 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Ice Storm
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Deadly Acid II
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation IV


Level 9 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Spell (2): Repair Moderate Damage
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (4): Enervation
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Deadly Ice III
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation V
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation V


Level 10 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (5): Cone of Cold
Enhancement: Deadly Acid III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded III


Level 11 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (3): Rage
Spell (4): Phantasmal Killer
Spell (5): Niac's Biting Cold
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing II


Level 12 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (6): Reconstruct
Enhancement: Sorcerer Water Savant II


Level 13 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Spell (6): Otiluke's Freezing Sphere
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting IV
Enhancement: Deadly Acid IV
Enhancement: Deadly Ice IV
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VII


Level 14 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Finger of Death
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting IV
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting V
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation VII


Level 15 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (5): Teleport
Spell (6): Greater Heroism
Enhancement: Deadly Ice V
Enhancement: Sorcerer Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Subtle Spellcasting I


Level 16 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (8): Polar Ray
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma II


Level 17 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (8): Black Dragon Bolt
Enhancement: Sorcerer Spell Penetration II


Level 18 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (9): Wail of the Banshee
Enhancement: Sorcerer Water Savant III


Level 19 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (8): Otto's Irresistible Dance
Spell (9): Power Word: Kill
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting V
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting VI
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting VI
Enhancement: Deadly Acid V
Enhancement: Deadly Acid VI
Enhancement: Deadly Ice VI


Level 20 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (9): Mass Hold Monster
Enhancement: Sorcerer Bloodline of Power
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation III
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[cut84li4e]

Have you tried looking at Mr. Cows Diary of a True Reincarnate Sorcerer?

His guide is incredible, even though you say you are extremely gimped, so you won't be able to get most his gear probably..but its still very useful to take a look at.

[zafahor]

Have you tried looking at Mr. Cows Diary of a True Reincarnate Sorcerer?

His guide is incredible, even though you say you are extremely gimped, so you won't be able to get most his gear probably..but its still very useful to take a look at.

no i actually have not seen that! thankyou for the recomendation!
zaf

EDIT: wow i saw it pretty impressive... :OOOOOO

[zafahor]

soo many views but no more comments? comon i need some feedback lol! even if u just say cool! or wow this is horrible i need comments lol!
zaf