Is KoTC 100% Dead?

[arminius]

I have 3 paladins, all of them started out as KoTC (when PrE's came along that is) and 2 have since moved to DoS, even though they aren't "tanks," and most often don't use shields.

I've hung on to the remaining KoTC but really it seems to be a Shroud running character and that's pretty much it. I've also noticed several "classes ranked against each other" threads and they don't even list KoTC as an "also ran;" it is as though KoTC has disappeared entirely.

Should I go ahead and move to the final holdout to DoS, or do some of you see some life remaining in KoTC? I always loved the idea of KoTC, it is just a shame it doesn't seem to work out in the, um, real world. Are any of you hanging in there, and see anything productive coming out of KoTC with the ED's, etc? If so, what?

EDIT: it would be a simple matter of "just flip and see how you like it" except that I hate losing the extra feat slot for the prerequisite, which seems so costly even on a human.

[Dwarfo]

Yeah, really no reason for going KOTC right now. Hopefully that will change with the enchancement revamp.

[Hilltrot]

Are paladins even alive?

I've seen more bards than paladins on Cannith.

Paladin needs a revamp altogether. Can't favored souls do more melee damage?

Their epic destiny just relegated them to tank-only status.

[msdesign]

KotC here with pride

Yes I'm happy with my build currently (thanks for the help to everybody in my A Better AC topic here in this section). I got my pali to level 19 very very easily, doing some Vale quests with other players, mostly at my own level when I was 17 and 18. Recently I even was the strongest character in the party, in one of those quests on Elite, with no cleric, and a favored soul who wasn't a healer, as he stated. Still, we managed with only 1 death, and it wasn't me.

I say, this Prestige enhancement is NOT dead. It is only dead if people want it to be.

And please, do play YOUR toon the way YOU like.

[sireric]

Problem is that Pallies just don't do the same kinda damage that their fighter and Barbarian counterparts can pull off. So that kinda limits them to tank mode, which of course makes DoS the obvious choice. I have thought for a while that pallies need a little love, like more pallie only spells, or make some of the cooler enhancements cheaper to get to and or easier to max out. That was the problem I had with the Pallie that I capped, too many prerequisite enhancements that I had to take to get to the ones I want, plus it is pointless to have 4 2nd level paladin spells as there really aren't 4 good ones.

[Fallout]

KotC here with pride

Yes I'm happy with my build currently (thanks for the help to everybody in my A Better AC topic here in this section). I got my pali to level 19 very very easily, doing some Vale quests with other players, mostly at my own level when I was 17 and 18. Recently I even was the strongest character in the party, in one of those quests on Elite, with no cleric, and a favored soul who wasn't a healer, as he stated. Still, we managed with only 1 death, and it wasn't me.

I say, this Prestige enhancement is NOT dead. It is only dead if people want it to be.

And please, do play YOUR toon the way YOU like.

The problem is after you past L20 not alot of enemies that benifiet from the prestige class, thus all but useless.

[DarkSpectre]

I just pulled my Kotc Paladin out of 2 year cold storage and slapped 9 destinies on him.

Kotc+Unyielding Sentinel Destiny is pretty decent now.

[Cashiry]

I just pulled my Kotc Paladin out of 2 year cold storage and slapped 9 destinies on him.

Kotc+Unyielding Sentinel Destiny is pretty decent now.

I was thinking the same thing.. while twisting in Exalted Angel's: Judgement and Judge the Many... still quite a few outsiders out there in Demonweb quests/raid.