Dear Sarlonian Wizzards

[Darthbadger]

So, to my dear Sarlonian wizzards...

Wail in Shroud Part 4: let's talk. I believe we need an intervention.
Wail in part 4 is bad, super bad: As in, "omg I could have mowed the lawn instead of done this" bad or "now I have to tell the girlfriend dinner will be late" bad, or " was that really the end boss for borderlands" bad.

You see, each of those nice little green devils? The big ugly ones with the bad dental hygiene? Each time they die they spawn blades that, ala Aliens, pop out of them and do all sorts of terrible damage to those around the now dead devil. In normal we can ignore this and go about our killing, in hard and elite not so much. Your wail, because you are so super über, kills all of them, spawning dozens and dozens of blades.

Yay! Wait. No. Thats awful, because a couple people are dead and no ones ready for harry.

Cast disco ball! Cast hold! Otherwise sit back, relax, have a cigar. You get to shine against Harry, but let the melees have their fun. Don't cast wail. Particularly when the raid leader says: hey, wizzards, don't cast wail, thanks. Let them be killed one at a time and wait the 20 seconds for the blades to disappear.

Otherwise I'm a gonna just start spamming judgement on y'all in part 2 and be done with it.

[Kages]

I can't agree with OP more on the casting of wail/circle of death in part 4. Especially when I'm on my healers. Gets annoying quickly and makes me take harm off of my skillset.

Note to OP. The threat of judgment is harsh, my caster hates this thought. Please remember not all of us are evil wail *****s.

[Wipey]

Wrong. While the group is spending 2 hours casting 7 useless spell resistances, 5 death wards and mass protects,11 blurs and true seeings and arties trying too keep up with chaotic requests in chat , get your ass in pt4 , web , wail , web , circle , finger , pwk then stone / dance / hold last devil. THEN have a cigar.

Ignore all of this if you have newbie in party of course :-)

[Hendrik]

I can't agree with OP more on the casting of wail/circle of death in part 4. Especially when I'm on my healers. Gets annoying quickly and makes me take harm off of my skillset.

Note to OP. The threat of judgment is harsh, my caster hates this thought. Please remember not all of us are evil wail *****s.

Yea, I'm the ONLY one allowed to kill Guildmates!

[Kages]

Yea, I'm the ONLY one allowed to kill Guildmates!

Note to self. Hendrik is no longer allowed in guild runs. Check!

[Hendrik]

Note to self. Hendrik is no longer allowed in guild runs. Check!

Your safe, for now.

Until I move back to Angel....



Then I will killz joo!

[Kages]

Your safe, for now.

Until I move back to Angel....



Then I will killz joo!

Sadly judgment is a tier 2 and easily twisted. We are never safe!

[Darthbadger]

Oh I'd never actually judge pms....unless I'm having a bad day...or I want to...or you're a guildie and I want to laugh at you.... =)

I'm a touchy cleric, but not a jerk.

Most pms are good about not casting wail, but the few who do and don't warn people can ruin a pug hard or elite run.

And yes, casting blur in part 4 and 5 is...comical.

[DarkForte]

My opinion? Wail the first wave and dance/hold the second to allow for some time while the blades disappear so no one drags them into the center. More efficient, still safe.

[Kirris]

Dear Sarlonian Wizards (and Sorcs and FVS and anyone else who feels they should be included here) in my shroud groups, please kill all the devils asap, wail, circle of death and implosion are all good for this! While you are at it, feel free to break crystals in part 3. Also, stop buffing the heck out of everyone, most people don't need most of the buffs you give, and if someone really needs a buff they will likely type for it, the mana you save here will also mean there is no reason to go tumbling in the pools! Lastly, to the people who feel the need to exploit and avoid the raid completion timer by leaving early, please leave before harry is dead, rather than making people wait for you or getting cranky when they don't. Happy Shrouding.

Kirris.

This is the shroud rant thread right?

[MsEricka]

Since the Shroud blades got hit with the nerf bat a while back I just disagree with the OP.

It's not that hard to get Shroud done, and unless you have 200HP you can survive the blades easily. Perhaps on Elite groups might want to instakill all the devils except for one, and leave that one up until all the other blades are gone.

It shouldn't take an hour to do Shroud normal, yet that's how long most pugs take which is pathetic. Speed it along, and everyone's gonna be happier.

[DarkForte]

Dear sarlonian wizards (and sorcs and fvs and anyone else who feels they should be included here) in my shroud groups, please kill all the devils asap, wail, circle of death and implosion are all good for this! While you are at it, feel free to break crystals in part 3. Also, stop buffing the heck out of everyone, most people don't need most of the buffs you give, and if someone really needs a buff they will likely type for it, the mana you save here will also mean there is no reason to go tumbling in the pools! Lastly, to the people who feel the need to exploit and avoid the raid completion timer by leaving early, please leave before harry is dead, rather than making people wait for you or getting cranky when they don't. Happy shrouding.

Kirris.

This is the shroud rant thread right? :d

qft.

[achitophel]

Kirris +rep

Srsly, people are still having trouble in shroud ?

[rdasca]

Dear Sarlonian Wizards (and Sorcs and FVS and anyone else who feels they should be included here) in my shroud groups, please kill all the devils asap, wail, circle of death and implosion are all good for this! While you are at it, feel free to break crystals in part 3. Also, stop buffing the heck out of everyone, most people don't need most of the buffs you give, and if someone really needs a buff they will likely type for it, the mana you save here will also mean there is no reason to go tumbling in the pools! Lastly, to the people who feel the need to exploit and avoid the raid completion timer by leaving early, please leave before harry is dead, rather than making people wait for you or getting cranky when they don't. Happy Shrouding.

Kirris.

This is the shroud rant thread right?

QFT!!!
+1

OP, please don't join my shroud runs, ever ...
30 minutes is a very slow run.

My LFM always read, Shroud: min buffs, fast, break crystals, no d-door, starting when full. (or something close to that)

Guess what? They fill fast and we are done in less time than it takes most Pugs to even fill.

[ulticleo]

Since the Shroud blades got hit with the nerf bat a while back I just disagree with the OP.

It's not that hard to get Shroud done, and unless you have 200HP you can survive the blades easily. Perhaps on epic Elite groups might want to instakill all the devils except for one, and leave that one up until all the other blades are gone.

It shouldn't take an hour to do Shroud normal, yet that's how long most pugs take which is pathetic. Speed it along, and everyone's gonna be happier.

fixed.

I just plain disagree with OP. the blades are hitting harder than they did last year, true, but they don't hit often since the nerf. Yes, there was a brief spell there where we had to be careful, but those days are long long gone.

go in. kill kill kill profit.

oh and also - if I do take out all the trash in elite shroud and your 350hp healer dies 2 seconds after harry drops along with the other healer and bard and NO ONE ELSE, maybe the problem isn't me...

[redmexz]

reroll Wail away

[Munkenmo]

Dear Sarlonian Wizards (and Sorcs and FVS and anyone else who feels they should be included here) in my shroud groups, please kill all the devils asap, wail, circle of death and implosion are all good for this! While you are at it, feel free to break crystals in part 3. Also, stop buffing the heck out of everyone, most people don't need most of the buffs you give, and if someone really needs a buff they will likely type for it, the mana you save here will also mean there is no reason to go tumbling in the pools! Lastly, to the people who feel the need to exploit and avoid the raid completion timer by leaving early, please leave before harry is dead, rather than making people wait for you or getting cranky when they don't. Happy Shrouding.

Kirris.

This is the shroud rant thread right?

beat me to it.

I'll add, if you can't live through the blades in part 4, stay in part 3, you're a liability in my groups anyway.

[LordPiglet]

I can't agree with OP more on the casting of wail/circle of death in part 4. Especially when I'm on my healers. Gets annoying quickly and makes me take harm off of my skillset.

Note to OP. The threat of judgment is harsh, my caster hates this thought. Please remember not all of us are evil wail *****s.

I'm with you kages. Heck, my envoker casts implosion and distruction. Get the trash down, anyone who can't survive a couple wacks deserves to die.

[LordPiglet]

Yea, I'm the ONLY one allowed to kill Guildmates!

note to self: run more with kages pm

[redmexz]

[QUOTE=LordPiglet;4595425]I'm with you kages. Heck, my envoker casts implosion and distruction. Get the trash down, anyone who can't survive a couple wacks deserves to die.[/Q
just kill