Dear Sarlonian Wizzards

[Darthbadger]

So, to my dear Sarlonian wizzards...

Wail in Shroud Part 4: let's talk. I believe we need an intervention.
Wail in part 4 is bad, super bad: As in, "omg I could have mowed the lawn instead of done this" bad or "now I have to tell the girlfriend dinner will be late" bad, or " was that really the end boss for borderlands" bad.

You see, each of those nice little green devils? The big ugly ones with the bad dental hygiene? Each time they die they spawn blades that, ala Aliens, pop out of them and do all sorts of terrible damage to those around the now dead devil. In normal we can ignore this and go about our killing, in hard and elite not so much. Your wail, because you are so super über, kills all of them, spawning dozens and dozens of blades.

Yay! Wait. No. Thats awful, because a couple people are dead and no ones ready for harry.

Cast disco ball! Cast hold! Otherwise sit back, relax, have a cigar. You get to shine against Harry, but let the melees have their fun. Don't cast wail. Particularly when the raid leader says: hey, wizzards, don't cast wail, thanks. Let them be killed one at a time and wait the 20 seconds for the blades to disappear.

Otherwise I'm a gonna just start spamming judgement on y'all in part 2 and be done with it.

[Kages]

I can't agree with OP more on the casting of wail/circle of death in part 4. Especially when I'm on my healers. Gets annoying quickly and makes me take harm off of my skillset.

Note to OP. The threat of judgment is harsh, my caster hates this thought. Please remember not all of us are evil wail *****s.

[Hendrik]

I can't agree with OP more on the casting of wail/circle of death in part 4. Especially when I'm on my healers. Gets annoying quickly and makes me take harm off of my skillset.

Note to OP. The threat of judgment is harsh, my caster hates this thought. Please remember not all of us are evil wail *****s.

Yea, I'm the ONLY one allowed to kill Guildmates!

[Kages]

Yea, I'm the ONLY one allowed to kill Guildmates!

Note to self. Hendrik is no longer allowed in guild runs. Check!

[Hendrik]

Note to self. Hendrik is no longer allowed in guild runs. Check!

Your safe, for now.

Until I move back to Angel....



Then I will killz joo!

[Kages]

Your safe, for now.

Until I move back to Angel....



Then I will killz joo!

Sadly judgment is a tier 2 and easily twisted. We are never safe!

[LordPiglet]

Yea, I'm the ONLY one allowed to kill Guildmates!

note to self: run more with kages pm

[LazyTigerLily]

Yea, I'm the ONLY one allowed to kill Guildmates!

I thought that was the point of the blades in part 4. I get points and devil scales for killing the boys!

[LordPiglet]

I can't agree with OP more on the casting of wail/circle of death in part 4. Especially when I'm on my healers. Gets annoying quickly and makes me take harm off of my skillset.

Note to OP. The threat of judgment is harsh, my caster hates this thought. Please remember not all of us are evil wail *****s.

I'm with you kages. Heck, my envoker casts implosion and distruction. Get the trash down, anyone who can't survive a couple wacks deserves to die.

[redmexz]

[QUOTE=LordPiglet;4595425]I'm with you kages. Heck, my envoker casts implosion and distruction. Get the trash down, anyone who can't survive a couple wacks deserves to die.[/Q
just kill

[Wipey]

Wrong. While the group is spending 2 hours casting 7 useless spell resistances, 5 death wards and mass protects,11 blurs and true seeings and arties trying too keep up with chaotic requests in chat , get your ass in pt4 , web , wail , web , circle , finger , pwk then stone / dance / hold last devil. THEN have a cigar.

Ignore all of this if you have newbie in party of course :-)

[Darthbadger]

Oh I'd never actually judge pms....unless I'm having a bad day...or I want to...or you're a guildie and I want to laugh at you.... =)

I'm a touchy cleric, but not a jerk.

Most pms are good about not casting wail, but the few who do and don't warn people can ruin a pug hard or elite run.

And yes, casting blur in part 4 and 5 is...comical.

[DarkForte]

My opinion? Wail the first wave and dance/hold the second to allow for some time while the blades disappear so no one drags them into the center. More efficient, still safe.

[Kirris]

Dear Sarlonian Wizards (and Sorcs and FVS and anyone else who feels they should be included here) in my shroud groups, please kill all the devils asap, wail, circle of death and implosion are all good for this! While you are at it, feel free to break crystals in part 3. Also, stop buffing the heck out of everyone, most people don't need most of the buffs you give, and if someone really needs a buff they will likely type for it, the mana you save here will also mean there is no reason to go tumbling in the pools! Lastly, to the people who feel the need to exploit and avoid the raid completion timer by leaving early, please leave before harry is dead, rather than making people wait for you or getting cranky when they don't. Happy Shrouding.

Kirris.

This is the shroud rant thread right?

[DarkForte]

Dear sarlonian wizards (and sorcs and fvs and anyone else who feels they should be included here) in my shroud groups, please kill all the devils asap, wail, circle of death and implosion are all good for this! While you are at it, feel free to break crystals in part 3. Also, stop buffing the heck out of everyone, most people don't need most of the buffs you give, and if someone really needs a buff they will likely type for it, the mana you save here will also mean there is no reason to go tumbling in the pools! Lastly, to the people who feel the need to exploit and avoid the raid completion timer by leaving early, please leave before harry is dead, rather than making people wait for you or getting cranky when they don't. Happy shrouding.

Kirris.

This is the shroud rant thread right? :d

qft.

[rdasca]

Dear Sarlonian Wizards (and Sorcs and FVS and anyone else who feels they should be included here) in my shroud groups, please kill all the devils asap, wail, circle of death and implosion are all good for this! While you are at it, feel free to break crystals in part 3. Also, stop buffing the heck out of everyone, most people don't need most of the buffs you give, and if someone really needs a buff they will likely type for it, the mana you save here will also mean there is no reason to go tumbling in the pools! Lastly, to the people who feel the need to exploit and avoid the raid completion timer by leaving early, please leave before harry is dead, rather than making people wait for you or getting cranky when they don't. Happy Shrouding.

Kirris.

This is the shroud rant thread right?

QFT!!!
+1

OP, please don't join my shroud runs, ever ...
30 minutes is a very slow run.

My LFM always read, Shroud: min buffs, fast, break crystals, no d-door, starting when full. (or something close to that)

Guess what? They fill fast and we are done in less time than it takes most Pugs to even fill.

[Darthbadger]

QFT!!!
+1

OP, please don't join my shroud runs, ever ...
30 minutes is a very slow run.

My LFM always read, Shroud: min buffs, fast, break crystals, no d-door, starting when full. (or something close to that)

Guess what? They fill fast and we are done in less time than it takes most Pugs to even fill.

I have absolutely no problem with you running shroud the way you want to run it. I run fast shrouds too, i think 15 minutes normal is my lowest. But I like teamwork, and I like running it under level, in hard or elite with pugs. Bad habits are bad habits, and running overgeared can teach bad habits. That is what is happening. And when I lead a raid and say no wail, it means no wail. You can always start your own lfm and complete faster than me. Have fun.

This is why I always told my guildies that nearfing the blades was a bad idea. Not a fan of autocomplete on all runs.

[Ilindith]

Who cares if people die in the Shroud? Just complete without them, geez.

[gordgray]

Who cares if people die in the Shroud? Just complete without them, geez.

You are the kind that zerg and people die or did I just misunderstood you?

[Darthbadger]

It's funny reading all these "shroud is ez kills aargh" posts and then checking the Sarlona lfm.

Normal shrouds galore, a rare hard (all of them full of 17-23).

This is not about your guild run, where you have your own system. I'd run elite vod in a second with guildies but never with pugs. This is about pug shrouds. And pugs are running normal on Sarlona. With a tiny bit of teamwork, the vast majority of these should be hard with heroic toons and elite with heroic and epic. But they aren't. In normal? Wail. Idk. I run normal when I'm bored or don't have much time. This is not about normal, and in elite or, to a lesser extent, hard, wail kills pug toons and is totally unnecessary in part four. If a leader says no wail, it means no wail. Form ur own lfm and do a quick normal shroud, that is cool by me.

Funny that I don't see much hard or elite pug shrouds on Sarlona if they are such a cakewalk for out server.

Anyway. Have fun.