We want a black list

[Thanquil]

/not signed

the /squelch works.

I also use note pad to write down bad people and good peoples names so i do not forget them.

[Rian]

Horrible idea, if it's someone you don't like then that's YOUR problem. If you truly have a problem with that person you will remember their name for a long time. You can trust me on that one.

/squelch does have a maximum capacity. If anything just increase the capacity.

[OzmarDDO]

my black list is ginormus...

I think I see the problem here...

-Ozmar the Observant

[totalmir]

I think I see the problem here...

-Ozmar the Observant

Well if they can't carry you through quests then you obviously got to blacklist them ...

[Xynot2]

I would sign if they can add a 3month fall off. Most of the people I squelch either leave or get a clue and are worth giving a second shot to. Or at least an option of a 3 month fall off.

[Jsbeer]

I think I see the problem here...

-Ozmar the Observant

Well if they can't carry you through quests then you obviously got to blacklist them ...

This reminds me of the time when I was playing an online PvP game and someone on my team complained how every single game he played his team always lost. I suggested he look for any common factors..........

[V_mad_jester_V]

/squelch only covers the toons you know, not the person behind the toons who you are really wanting to prevent from joining your groups.

Not everyone meshes personality wise, some hate playing with kids, some hate loot hoars who loot everything regardless of whether they can use items or not, some people talk too much or are verbally abusive.. someone may have barked tink....whatever the reason....not everyone gets along...Most issues are with the person behind the toon not just the toon they are currently on.

I would like to see a list on the social panel with my /squelched hits the persons entire account, where I can add comments as to why I squelched a person (and not have this wipe after every TR)..

I have only squelched a couple of people like the barbarian who looted +4 Wis tome(his drop) in TOD after he won a roll on a +4 STR Tome(that most didnt roll against him) when I was on my cleric or The pug cleric who got to the VOD enterance and said he didnt have any pots or scrolls, so we loaded him up with pots and scrolls.. then he mysteriously DC'd, switched toons (no one knew him or his alts) and was gone for the night. Not only abandoning the group but taking a dozen pots with him....

A list makes it easier to periodically review and reassess squelchee's.

I am sure a lot of flamers are against this /squelch account idea mostly becasue they are worried they will be on that list and you havent figured out all their alts yet...

ty, thats what im trying to get at, there are alot of a holes like that, and the hardest offenders are ones that i remember most, met this terrible god awful healer named friw, a name banked in my memory. and when i say terrible god awful i mean it. there are a few names i can remember who made an easy quest turn into a hard one.

to everyone else, please read the rest of the post instead of simply thumbing through it, cuz its pretty obvious. I also mentioned a 3rd option if any one bothers to read and that 3rd option is the ability to import/export squelch list. but doing that would be made easier if there was a black list.

1. ignorant noob is fine, i can deal with ignorant noob, they are the people who need to be trained up.
2. stupid vet/noob not fine, and when i say stupid i mean like plays like an idiot and works against the group.
3. im not elitest but do you really wanna work with a person who turned your 20min quest into an hour fiasco? such as Shroud, lets say your in part 2, and the same guy repeaditly kills the elemental and you have to start over again and again and again, until he you can out kill him before he drops it. Thats a waste of time cuz most people should know when in a team setting you work as a team.
4. lets say your rogue is the most important part of your quest (and for a lot of quest they are) and they drop party and switch toons leaving you high and dry, and your already too far into the quest for people to actually want to join. thats a black listee they just showed that they cant be relied and therefore shouldnt be relied on in future groups.
5. people who rage quit the first time they die in a quest. especially those who zerg off and require rez in 5 sec or they drop group. thats a black listee

The reasons why i black list people, A. they are total dbags. B. they turned my 20 min quest into an hour + quest (im a crucible guide, i have completed it on leet in 22 mins. ) if there is someone in my group who decided not to listen to me as i guide (the ones that dont know the quest, but decide they want to do w/e they want) is def a black listee. Again people are assuming way to much when they post something directly about me, and your wrong, like i said earlier in the post dont assume as to why i want the black list. Get to know me and how i play. This is Dungeons and Dragons after all, and in pnp settings if you got a group and not working as a team things can go wrong fast. If you an a hole/d bag, if your an idiot who cant play nicely with others i can understand not signing off on this for fear that you will be black listed by alot of people, but that should say something bout yourself. If your not one of those people i dont see why not, cuz then you wouldnt be subject to that black list.

Another instance, I was in Cole chamber on leet out in vale, and there are one of 3 ways it goes, really easy (which is my general experience), hard but you made it limping to the finish line, or complete fail. There was this pally/monk who decided to zerg off, aggro every thing she could, get them in nice masses then move on (through doorways and what not) by the time the party catches up to her theres a nice little group waiting for us. Least to say each fight dragged on and we had many deaths. Finally during one of your zerg moments she dies, we catch up, and healer dies. No shrines left, and way to far and too hurt to head back to shrine. I used over 200+ pots in that quest, which any vet should know is costly, and playing my build in the first place is cost (due to mats needed for spells). I have ran cole chamber in 30 mins, and this extravaganza took an hour and 25 mins or something like that i cant remember but it exceeded an hour for sure. And this was consistent behavour of the player. Did a hox run that fail cuz she pretty much did the same thing. Couldnt even complete the first 5 mins of the quest, cuz she would aggro things, bring em tot he tank/ tank healer, get the tank killed and both healers killed off, and well you know in hox thats murder she wrote. Joined a pug group with some arti for servants, he accepted her into the group and i was like "bad idea man she'll get us all killed" he told me it will be fine, we entered the quest and wiped cuz of her in the first 10 mins. THAT is a black listee

Had a person join the group moonlighting as a healer, in the end after using 1k worth of pots personally, probably a group net of 5-6k worth of pots, we wiped. She never threw a single heal, and cuz of the many self sufficient groups i join, im pretty broke cuz of all the pots i buy. and its either have the divine heal me for free or continue on making myself even more broke buying a **** ton of pots. In a good group i actually save money, in a bad group i loose alot of plat. That is a blacklistee, why? cuz she could have had the common courtesy to tell us she was dps not heals, so that would could have been better prepared for it. When i have a person telling us "i can heal the party" i dont buy 100+ pots, cuz i shouldnt even need to.

anytime i have failed a quest is for one of two reasons. 1 the group just wasnt good as a group (can individually be great players) or 2. the above mentioned reasons why i black list people. Item 1 dont make people subject to black list, item 2 dose.

[Todkaninchen]

Feh! Who needs a blacklist?

I mean, sure, there are some PUGs that are totally a rolling train wreck and some people...

Well, some people really set you up for failure, but most just need some talking to.

The others, you just keep using bluff to pull enemies onto them until they die and then drag them along for the ride in your inventory. Sort of like a reverse Leroy Jenkins followed by a ghostly tutorial.

I mean, sure, they try to respawn at shrines, but then you repeat as necessary when they get stupid again.

(Just don't stand too close behind them when you bluff or they might catch on.)

[macubrae]

...but only if the blacklister is blacklisted from the other players account. People with 'ginormous' blacklists might get tired of always playing solo. That way, the common factor is illiminated.

Sounds WIN WIN to me!

[Chai]

...but only if the blacklister is blacklisted from the other players account. People with 'ginormous' blacklists might get tired of always playing solo. That way, the common factor is illiminated.

Sounds WIN WIN to me!

This.

[V_mad_jester_V]

...but only if the blacklister is blacklisted from the other players account. People with 'ginormous' blacklists might get tired of always playing solo. That way, the common factor is illiminated.

Sounds WIN WIN to me!

actually, regardless of the size of my black list, many times there are more people hitting me up when i log on then i can group with. I have at least 30 friends that i team up with often, and i do agree those i black list i should automatically be black listed by them. I hardly ever have to play solo though and if you read that giant rant above you can see what qualifies a black listee and what dosent. But as I said im rather popular around my sever, unless your one of the people i told off. For instance told a guy in colossal crystal to head north while i went the other direction to get ward/crest. He instead went south toward the foreman and just stood there, by the time i found items needed there were 5 mins left, which we could have succeeded in the challenge but the guy refused to stay north, and it took me like 1min to get back, would have taken 2 mins to clear to where we needed to be, and last 2 mins would be escorting the kobold back. Challenge completed, well instead since he didnt seem to know what north was (and my 6 year old brother knows which way is north, and he also pointed it out to me by looking at my mini map which was is north) it took me a lil over 3 mins to clear (4 mins gone) and timer was up by the time kobold could get to crystal. Tried it again, guy didnt know which was was north, so i told him off and booted him from party, few mins later a friend joined and made 250 mats per run. (naturally that guy who just wasted 20 mins of my time is a blacklistee) i dont mind mistakes being made, but not knowing your cardinal directions? and a parent who lets their really young, dont know anything for anything, kids play, thats just flat out irresponsible imo. (its an mmo there will be bad language, there will be violence, ect) heck even jeets pretty much talks about prostitutes and getting drunk "tidy lasses and pints up the wazoo"

[UltraMonk2]

I have never squelched anyone in any MMO as far as I can recall.

I personally think that if there are people in the game with huge squelch lists then I suggest to them that they may be the one who has problems and not the people they are squelching.

[V_mad_jester_V]

I have never squelched anyone in any MMO as far as I can recall.

I personally think that if there are people in the game with huge squelch lists then I suggest to them that they may be the one who has problems and not the people they are squelching.

actually this is one of the few casual games i've played...actually only. most games had to be bought or had to have a subscription. but i black list the leroy jenkins of this game usually. I paid for city of heroes/villians, never had a black listee, WoW same story, Starwars Galaxies, even played The Secret world. I play with one mind set, lets work together which when posting in lfm i always put (team players only) and lets make this quest easy. If you didnt bother to read the above and what constitutes a black listee i'll recap some. Those who are flat out stupid (ignorant is fine wont black list ignorant, their still learning) and those who turn my 20 min quest into 2 hour quest (crucible and the pit, i can guide both of those in 20-25 mins, but if you made my life hard in those, again stupid not ignorant, then your a black listee)

[psykopeta]

set a message in your guild

"XXXXX blacklisted"

where XXXXX is the guild name

when a guy from that guild tries to join, explain it to him/her and done

cause the best you can do is no squelch/blacklist that person

is making his/her guild now what kind of person is, and the reputation is giving to the guild

[herzkos]

not signed.

I think you'd be better off with a "white list" op. You know, if they're not on the list
you don't play with them. If there is noone on who is on your list, perhaps you should go to a different
server or quit.

[macubrae]

Sarcasm FAIL.

[Enoach]

It is unfortunate that people find the need to keep track of a mired of people that they don't WANT to run with. However, your proposal goes beyond your groups and applies it to someone else group.

DDO is designed around a social game and based on the design of the friends list, Guild and squelch I would say the original intention of Turbine was to create a social network type environment, allowing you to stay in groups that more closely match your style and goals.

Next Turbine does not want to help facilitate ostracizing people... Why? because if they do they are pushing customers away. Businesses don't survive long if they help customers make other customers feel unwanted.

I reviewed my squelch list and discovered I had exactly 3 people on it. Two were names like "asdfgh" (gold spammer days) and one real and the only reason the real name was on the list was because they had a mental breakdown at the end of a quest (the 3rd quest I had run with them in a row) and verbally/textually took it out on the entire party.

There are a few people I won't run with if I can avoid it, they just rub me the wrong way, so I don't join their groups. If however, they join a group that I'm already in, I don't leave as this is my issue not a party issue. Sometimes this confirms my feelings and other times I'm pleasantly surprised.

There are many ways to avoid people you don't want to group with - Again I consider this to be "MY" issues (by MY I'm referring the all the me's out there) as Turbine is not a dating service helping us find compatible matches.

• Develop a "Know Me" attitude - Only group with people you know
• Develop a "Guild Only" attitude - forsake the PuG
• Keep the pen and paper version of a DNG list - will require some research on your part to see if MyDDO lists out their characters

I'm sorry that you have run into so many people that have made your Black List, hope you have better luck going forward.

[Missing_Minds]

I don't want a black list.

I want a /squelch that works on accounts, not individual characters.

[V_mad_jester_V]

I don't want a black list.

I want a /squelch that works on accounts, not individual characters.

or that which i actually stated earlier

[daniel7]

I would like a tab under social where you can make notes. You would click his/her name to add the name to a list and then later add your notes like "Slayer the barbarian is aka Legolas the ranger" or "his name is Billy in RL" or "Slayer hates Medic so don't group them together" or "this guy is an ass" etc. I mean the reasons for taking notes on players is limitless so I don't see why that couldn't be in game.