Suggestion for new Reincarnation option: Change RACE!

[Persiflage]

If you spare the time or the TP's you can change all of your class levels without TR'ing. You can change all of your feats. You can change all of your skills and enhancements. Why can't we change race?

I've got a number of high-level toons on the shelf who are going to stay there because the game has changed to the extent that the race/class combo just isn't fun any more, and I really really don't have the time or inclination to level a dozen TR's. I'd like to play a high-level FvS and have a crack at the destinies, but as mine is WF, I'm not interested any more. I'd like to swap my Cleric's race from Dwarf to Human but I'll be damned if I'm levelling up as a cleric again. My capped Monk is a Dex/Wis Halfling, which doesn't really cut it these days, and so on...

While I might not like (and in some cases, thoroughly dislike) some of the changes themselves, I recognise that change is a necessary thing to keep a game like this alive. However, if you're going to alter the game to the extent that certain races and classes that used to work well together just don't any more, it'd be nice to have an option that meant all the time didn't have to be re-invested; as it stands, if I'm unhappy with my race selection I've got the choice of "not playing a toon", "deleting and starting again" (even if it has good BtC gear for the class) or "TR'ing", which is much more work than levelling a 1st-life toon.

Call it a Soul Transfer, or a Full Reincarnation, make us turn in epic tokens for a Heart of Water or whatnot, whatever, but please let us change the race of our toons! I for one would get WAY more mileage out of the work I'd already put in if I could do that.

We now return you to your normal programming

[xxHazexx]

You can change your race....you cannot change your gender, you can also change your class.


"p.s. Have you ever TR'd a character before?"

[Talias006]

Does it matter that a person has ever TR'd or not?
I have, it's a bit harder than 1st life although not miserably so, I expect that to happen on my 2ND TR.

But still, the thing is they want to just change race so they will be beneficial now.
As opposed to however long it will take them to reach their stated levels, which may be as little as a month if you churn through levels like a meat grinder, or as much as half a year if you're more of a casual gamer.

So the real question is:
"Why does this suggestion bother you?"

I have some characters that would gladly take a race change, because of changes that either made their current race lackluster or that other races had come to the fore.
Also, I have a couple characters that predate the Halves, which would become immensely more fun to play as one or the other.

[xxHazexx]

I would've suggested a race change for an LR....just sayin.

[ZeebaNeighba]

You can change your race....you cannot change your gender, you can also change your class.


"p.s. Have you ever TR'd a character before?"

How about

A race change where you keep your current level too

[Dhalgren]

I would've suggested a race change for an LR....just sayin.

That is actually exactly what is being requested--although granted, the OP wasn't really as clear on that as he might have been. He did state that TRing is not an attractive option for him to change his characters' races, though.

[xxHazexx]

That is actually exactly what is being requested--although granted, the OP wasn't really as clear on that as he might have been. He did state that TRing is not an attractive option for him to change his characters' races, though.

Yea i was little a unclear at first i assumed the OP was referring to the TRUE reincarnation. My mistake.

[Persiflage]

I thought I'd been pretty clear that I wanted a reincarnation option to change race that was NOT A TR, but if I hadn't: "I want a reincarnation option to change race that IS NOT A TR." I want to keep my current XP and class levels but be able to change my race.

Like I said, I'm happy for this to work just like other reincarnation options; epic tokens for a heart of whatever or pay TP for the privilege, just so long as the option is there. It would essentially involve a lesser reincarnation as well (because otherwise there'd be all sorts of issues with racial feats) but that's OK. Make it appropriately expensive, make us sweat for it, but give us the option!

[Lleren]

I suppose this has some attraction to me. I'd also want some option to change the sex of the character as well, as would many drivers of Warforged ( save the 'nomes )

[Uska]

You can change your race....you cannot change your gender, you can also change your class.


"p.s. Have you ever TR'd a character before?"

He is talking about without tring

[xxHazexx]

He is talking about without tring

Yea im well aware of this now if you read a couple posts down you would have seen that i stated i was confused by the OP because i shouldn't have assumed he was in reference to true reincarnation. That and the OP could have been a little more clear.

[rimble]

I think this is PARTICULARLY important with the supposed upcoming Enhancement changes. I actually just made use of the Stone of Experience before U14 just so I could do a race change, sure wouldn't have minded if I didn't have to go through all that.

[Persiflage]

I've got a couple of characters, including one mid-way TR, on the shelf because the race I picked doesn't really work out any more and I can't be bothered to work on them... I'd really, really love this added

[danotmano1998]

Agreed.

I'd even be ok with it ONLY being on greater hearts. I don't know if there's a reason why they didn't add this option or if it was just overlooked.

I'd even vote for being able to change sex on a TR. To make up for those unfortunate WF mistakes.. We could call it a plumbing reassignment instead of a sex change if that would make it more palatable.

[Persiflage]

Heck, I'd be OK with it having its own mechanism so long as I could do it! Adding it as an option on Greater Hearts would obviously be ideal, but I don't mind if its a <Different> Reincarnation using a Heart of Water or some other new thing Turbine could use to generate store revenue... I just want it in there

And yes, a plumbing reassignment would absolutely be good too!

[Kallev]

Oh my yes please. Some sort of lesser TR would be something I would empty my wallet for. I've got a toon right now with 1 TR under the belt, and every second since the TR I've wanted to redo the toon entirely. Even just a race change would be delightful. Signed wholeheartedly.

[Persiflage]

I'm glad it's not just me To be honest a complete rebuild at current XP would be the ideal, but I can see how that would interfere with existing LR/LR+1/LR+3/LR+5 mechanics, so I'd happily settle for being able to change the race by one method and having to use LR/GR+whatever for the rest.

Or, as suggested by danotmano, make it something you can get from Greater Reincarnation. Anything that would let me rebuild my WF FvS, TR'd WF Monk/Kensai and so on into more viable race choices would be welcome :/

[Persiflage]

Oh my yes please. Some sort of lesser TR would be something I would empty my wallet for. I've got a toon right now with 1 TR under the belt, and every second since the TR I've wanted to redo the toon entirely. Even just a race change would be delightful. Signed wholeheartedly.

Oo, first post; welcome to the forums!

[slimkj]

I'd like this suggestion implemented.

[CaptainSpacePony]

I disagree with this request. There is very little more elemental about who your character is aside from race, gender, and name. Change those and you're talking about a different character.

LR and GR are merely respecs with a "reincarnation" theme to justify them. TR and Rerolling are the way to change race. Now if you were asking TR to be able to change gender, then I'd back it but aren't so no.