Build that doesn't usually do damage?

[jackmcbarn]

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(2 Rogue \ 18 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 184
Spell Points: 1277 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 15
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                     8
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         18                    18
Intelligence         18                    22
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                     4
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    27
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        8                    23.5
Haggle                2                    13
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  4                     4
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  3                    13
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         4                    17.5
Open Lock             4                     4
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     6
Search                8                    10
Spot                  4                    16.5
Swim                 -1                    -1
Tumble                4                     4
Use Magic Device      2                     2

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 2 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (1): Acid Spray
Spell (1): Charm Person
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (1): Grease
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Sleep


Level 3 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Spell (1): Jump


Level 4 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (2): Web


Level 5 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Knock
Spell (2): Snowball Swarm


Level 6 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Illusion
Spell (3): Fireball
Spell (3): Protection From Energy


Level 7 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (3): Stinking Cloud
Spell (3): Acid Blast


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (4): Wall of Fire
Spell (4): Charm Monster


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Conjuration


Level 10 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Spell (4): Repair Critical Damage
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): Teleport


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): Ball Lightning
Spell (5): Break Enchantment


Level 13 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (6): Reconstruct


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): Otiluke's Freezing Sphere
Spell (6): True Seeing


Level 15 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (7): Greater Teleport


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (7): Prismatic Spray
Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Spell (8): Mass Charm Monster
Spell (8): Polar Ray


Level 18 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (8): Sunburst
Spell (8): Greater Shout


Level 19 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (9): Wail of the Banshee
Spell (9): Meteor Swarm


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (9): Mass Hold Monster
Spell (9): Dominate Monster

[Enoach]

Sleep and Deep Slumber are great at very low levels. Pick up an good weapon. Hit the mobs with Sleep or Deep Slumber. Then go to to town. You will never use these spells at higher levels. Their usefulness almost completely fades off around levels 8-10.

Sorry, I'm actually going to disagree with not being useful from Levels past 10.

Here is why...

One Example:

Since the Spell pass that removed the HD limit on Sleep and Deep Slumber I have found that this spell works on Vermin better than mass holds. Example is "Let Sleeping Dust Lie". In this quest the goal is to kill all of the Ogres without killing any spiders. This can prove to be difficult since spiders like to jump and Holding them makes them more Damage prone from melee glancing blows. The Ogres have a higher Save vs this spell so being able to cast in on the entire group puts the spiders to sleep and maybe 1 or 2 ogres allowing them to come to you putting spiders out of harms way.

Another example

Quests where spending time killing stuff is actually wasting XP/per minute. While Mass, Hold can disable groups, if the group is thick enough it may be difficult to skirt by. Using Deep Slumber actually puts them on the ground making it easier to pass by. Also this spell works when dealing with mobs that commonly have Freedom of Movement.

This spells best use is not against creatures your going to kill, but against creatures you want to avoid killing.

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The primary CC Wizard is a valid build, but you will need to understand your limitations and realize how your going to fit in to each group. Groups that want to pummel everything will enjoy your style. Tactical groups will enjoy your contribution. Zerging Groups may not notice as most of them ignore the chaff in quests anyway.

I do recommend have a few "other" tricks up your sleeve; such as a few DPS DoTs both single and AoE and also some burst damage for when no CC is required and there is only this one BIG BAD standing between you and sweet loot.

[morticianjohn]

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1st - 23 points in INT at level 20. You get 18 starting out and 5 level up points (should be one point at level 4)
2nd - Max your search skill if you want to get elite traps
3rd - UMD is quite helpful especially on a Wiz/Rogue as you can get no fail raise dead scrolls pretty easily. I would probably swap haggle, repair and jump for search and UMD. If you get a +2 int tome at level 7 you can get an extra skill point for each level after that which will help you to get those skills higher.
4th - Consider otto's irresistable dance (lvl 8 wizard spell) as it has no save for those times where an enemy has saves too high to do anything else.
5th - at level 20 fill out your enhancements so others can comment on those also

it really looks pretty good. I hope you're having a fun time playing it.

[jackmcbarn]

1st - 23 points in INT at level 20. You get 18 starting out and 5 level up points (should be one point at level 4)
2nd - Max your search skill if you want to get elite traps
3rd - UMD is quite helpful especially on a Wiz/Rogue as you can get no fail raise dead scrolls pretty easily. I would probably swap haggle, repair and jump for search and UMD. If you get a +2 int tome at level 7 you can get an extra skill point for each level after that which will help you to get those skills higher.
4th - Consider otto's irresistable dance (lvl 8 wizard spell) as it has no save for those times where an enemy has saves too high to do anything else.
5th - at level 20 fill out your enhancements so others can comment on those also

it really looks pretty good. I hope you're having a fun time playing it.

1. Thanks for catching that. I totally missed that increase.
2. I can't keep Concentration, Disable Device, and Search all maxed, let alone the rest I want. How should I balance my skill points?
3. I'll try to take some points from Haggle and Jump. I didn't invest in Repair, and I don't think I'll get a tome.
4. Which spell should I swap out for Otto's Irresistible Dance?
5. I'm working on enhancements now. I have a pretty good idea what I'm going to do, but I'm not sure how important the element manipulation/crit lines are.

[morticianjohn]

1. Thanks for catching that. I totally missed that increase.
2. I can't keep Concentration, Disable Device, and Search all maxed, let alone the rest I want. How should I balance my skill points?
3. I'll try to take some points from Haggle and Jump. I didn't invest in Repair, and I don't think I'll get a tome.
4. Which spell should I swap out for Otto's Irresistible Dance?
5. I'm working on enhancements now. I have a pretty good idea what I'm going to do, but I'm not sure how important the element manipulation/crit lines are.

On my palemaster I took the full crit lines for cold but I didn't have a secondary element. Some others do 2 elements. I think generally people like to do 7/1/1 (meaning only one AP in the crit lines) but it's really up to you.

Greater shout can be decent CC but deals abysmal damage. The issue is that it's directional and doesn't have a great range. So all said it's pretty marginal (bards don't get many options which is why they like it so much).

in terms of skills I think priority should go like this

1st concentration
2nd search
3rd disable
4th spot
5th move silently
5th UMD
6th balance

If you play mostly in groups then spot is slightly less useful as there will likely be a party member who can show you where the traps are. On my pally rogue with a 14 starting INT I lowered disable to 18 at the end, to make up for this I had a +15 disable item that I swapped in when trapping. End game disable was over 50 but I hear the epic elite difficulty in the new content has a higher disable requirement so it's up to you.

[jackmcbarn]

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(2 Rogue \ 18 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 184
Spell Points: 1277 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 15
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                     8
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         18                    18
Intelligence         18                    23
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    12
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    27
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        8                    23.5
Haggle                2                     2
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  4                     4
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  3                    10
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         4                    13
Open Lock             4                     4
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     6
Search                8                    23.5
Spot                  4                    13.5
Swim                 -1                    -1
Tumble                4                     4
Use Magic Device      2                     6.5

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 2 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (1): Acid Spray
Spell (1): Charm Person
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (1): Grease
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Sleep


Level 3 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Spell (1): Jump


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (2): Web


Level 5 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Knock
Spell (2): Snowball Swarm


Level 6 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Illusion
Spell (3): Fireball
Spell (3): Protection From Energy


Level 7 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (3): Stinking Cloud
Spell (3): Acid Blast


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (4): Wall of Fire
Spell (4): Charm Monster


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Search (+8)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Conjuration


Level 10 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (4): Repair Critical Damage
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): Teleport


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): Ball Lightning
Spell (5): Break Enchantment


Level 13 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (6): Reconstruct


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): Otiluke's Freezing Sphere
Spell (6): True Seeing


Level 15 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (7): Greater Teleport


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Prismatic Spray
Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Spell (8): Mass Charm Monster
Spell (8): Polar Ray


Level 18 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (8): Sunburst
Spell (8): Otto's Irresistible Dance


Level 19 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (9): Meteor Swarm
Spell (9): Wail of the Banshee


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (9): Mass Hold Monster
Spell (9): Dominate Monster

Enhancements I know I'm taking:

Warforged Inscribed Armor I
Improved Concentration I
Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Wizard Intelligence I
Improved Concentration II
Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Wizard Spell Penetration I
Wizard Archmage I
Archmage Spell Mastery I: Enchantment
Wizard Intelligence II
Illusion I - Invisibility
Conjuration I - Grease
Enchantment I - Hypnotism
Improved Concentration III
Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Wizard Archmage II
Conjuration II - Web
Enchantment II - Otto's Resistible Dance
Wizard Spell Penetration II
Wizard Intelligence III
Wizard Archmage III
Archmage Secondary Spell Mastery I: Conjuration
Enchantment III - Hold Person
Improved Concentration IV
Wizard Spell Penetration III
Archmage Spell Mastery II: Enchantment
Wizard Archmage IV
Enchantment IV - Charm Monster

Regarding enhancements, I seem to use such a variety of damage types that no line stands out as being the right one for me. Should I just take a few in Fire and Cold, since I seem to use them a little more than others?

[morticianjohn]

Fire is ok early on but after a point you should just stick with one element. Since the focus of your build is CC and damage is secondary it isn't imperative that you cover all the bases in damage.

The reason why cold is suggested is because there are many fire immune foes end game. Also cold spells have the advantage over acid and electric spells because they have so many options. AoE spells like cone of cold, or the freezing sphere. Single target spells like polar ray (one of the best single target damage spells in the game) and frost lance. In addition niac's biting cold is one of the two best dps spells against bosses (eldar's electric surge being the other). Make sure you take both of those spells when you level up because the scrolls aren't sold by vendors so those scrolls will be far more expensive than other scrolls. You can only get them on the AH.

[jackmcbarn]

I think I've incorporated just about everything now.

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(2 Rogue \ 18 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 184
Spell Points: 1277 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 15
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                     8
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         18                    18
Intelligence         18                    23
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    12
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    27
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        8                    23.5
Haggle                2                     2
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  4                     4
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  3                    10
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         4                    13
Open Lock             4                     4
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     6
Search                8                    23.5
Spot                  4                    13.5
Swim                 -1                    -1
Tumble                4                     4
Use Magic Device      2                     6.5

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 2 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (1): Acid Spray
Spell (1): Charm Person
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (1): Grease
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Sleep


Level 3 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Spell (1): Jump


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (2): Web


Level 5 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Knock
Spell (2): Snowball Swarm


Level 6 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Illusion
Spell (3): Fireball
Spell (3): Protection From Energy


Level 7 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (3): Stinking Cloud
Spell (3): Acid Blast


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (4): Wall of Fire
Spell (4): Repair Critical Damage


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Search (+8)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Conjuration


Level 10 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Spell (4): Charm Monster


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (5): Cloudkill
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): Niac's Biting Cold
Spell (5): Eladar's Electric Surge


Level 13 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): Reconstruct
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): True Seeing
Spell (6): Otiluke's Freezing Sphere


Level 15 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (7): Greater Teleport


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Prismatic Spray
Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Spell (8): Mass Charm Monster
Spell (8): Polar Ray


Level 18 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (8): Sunburst
Spell (8): Otto's Irresistible Dance


Level 19 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (9): Meteor Swarm
Spell (9): Wail of the Banshee


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (9): Mass Hold Monster
Spell (9): Dominate Monster

Level 20 (AP: 80/4)
Warforged Inscribed Armor I
Improved Concentration I
Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Wizard Intelligence I
Improved Concentration II
Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Wizard Spell Penetration I
Wizard Archmage I
Archmage Spell Mastery I: Enchantment
Wizard Intelligence II
Illusion I - Invisibility
Conjuration I - Grease
Enchantment I - Hypnotism
Improved Concentration III
Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Wizard Archmage II
Conjuration II - Web
Enchantment II - Otto's Resistible Dance
Wizard Spell Penetration II
Wizard Intelligence III
Wizard Archmage III
Archmage Secondary Spell Mastery I: Conjuration
Enchantment III - Hold Person
Improved Concentration IV
Wizard Spell Penetration III
Archmage Spell Mastery II: Enchantment
Wizard Archmage IV
Enchantment IV - Charm Monster
Frost Manipulation I
Frost Manipulation II
Frost Manipulation III
Frost Manipulation IV
Frost Manipulation V
Frost Manipulation VI
Frost Manipulation VII
Repair Manipulation I
Flame Manipulation I
Acid Manipulation I
Force Manipulation I
Storm Manipulation I
Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV
Wizard Archmage V
Glacial Spellcasting I
Deadly Ice I
Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Rogue Cold Trap Lore I
Rogue Electric Trap Lore I
Rogue Fire Trap Lore I
Rogue Sonic Trap Lore I
Warforged Construct Thinking I
Warforged Damage Reduction I
Warforged Hardiness I

[jackmcbarn]

Here's what I've come up with, this time with enhancements included in the stats. Does this build look okay? Also, one of my concerns is because of the way the Spell Mastery and SLA enhancements interact, I need to reset my enhancements at level 14 to make them work. Is this a concern?

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(2 Rogue \ 18 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 184
Spell Points: 1366 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 17
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                     8
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         18                    18
Intelligence         18                    26
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    12
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    31
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        8                    25.5
Haggle                2                     2
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  4                     4
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  3                    10
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         4                    13
Open Lock             4                     4
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     8
Search                8                    25.5
Spot                  4                    13.5
Swim                 -1                    -1
Tumble                4                     4
Use Magic Device      2                     6.5

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 2 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (1): Acid Spray
Spell (1): Charm Person
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (1): Grease
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Sleep


Level 3 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Spell (1): Jump


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (2): Web


Level 5 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (2): Knock
Spell (2): Snowball Swarm


Level 6 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Illusion
Spell (3): Fireball
Spell (3): Protection From Energy


Level 7 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (3): Acid Blast
Spell (3): Stinking Cloud


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (4): Repair Critical Damage
Spell (4): Wall of Fire


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Search (+8)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Conjuration


Level 10 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (4): Charm Monster
Spell (4): Ice Storm


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (5): Cloudkill
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): Niac's Biting Cold
Spell (5): Eladar's Electric Surge


Level 13 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): Reconstruct
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): True Seeing
Spell (6): Otiluke's Freezing Sphere


Level 15 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (7): Greater Teleport
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements
Spell (7): Prismatic Spray


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Spell (8): Mass Charm Monster
Spell (8): Polar Ray


Level 18 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (8): Sunburst
Spell (8): Otto's Irresistible Dance


Level 19 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (9): Meteor Swarm
Spell (9): Wail of the Banshee


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Move Silently (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (9): Mass Hold Monster
Spell (9): Dominate Monster
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Cold Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Electric Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Fire Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Sonic Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Deadly Ice I
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation II
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation III
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation V
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation I
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Hardiness I
Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage I
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage II
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage III
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage IV
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage V
Enhancement: Archmage Secondary Spell Mastery I: Conjuration
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery I: Enchantment
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery II: Enchantment
Enhancement: Conjuration I - Grease
Enhancement: Conjuration II - Web
Enhancement: Enchantment I - Hypnotism
Enhancement: Enchantment II - Otto's Resistible Dance
Enhancement: Enchantment III - Hold Person
Enhancement: Enchantment IV - Charm Monster
Enhancement: Illusion I - Invisibility