What to do about rogue moving into epic levels?

[Xalir]

Imho, the new way for rogues assassins is full DEX/INT, dual-wielding eMG, twisting tier4 Unyielding Sentinel or Fury of the Wild weapon alignment buff, twisting the tier 1 1.5 more W and tier 2 3% Doublestrike from Grandmaster of Flower. If you don't go into Shadowdancer, you could twist the +6 DC to Assassinate instead of the 3% Doublestrike.

However I think, there is no reason to take anything else as a primary ED than Shadowdancer. If the bugs are fixed with Devourer and Executioner Strike we are talking about 4 instakill-mechanics on different cool downs. Hard to beat and hard to not top the kill count in any group.

[jejeba86]

Imho, the new way for rogues assassins is full DEX/INT, dual-wielding eMG, twisting tier4 Unyielding Sentinel or Fury of the Wild weapon alignment buff, twisting the tier 1 1.5 more W and tier 2 3% Doublestrike from Grandmaster of Flower. If you don't go into Shadowdancer, you could twist the +6 DC to Assassinate instead of the 3% Doublestrike.

However I think, there is no reason to take anything else as a primary ED than Shadowdancer. If the bugs are fixed with Devourer and Executioner Strike we are talking about 4 instakill-mechanics on different cool downs. Hard to beat and hard to not top the kill count in any group.

Exactly what I plan!

[thomhas_of_mabar]

Does anyone know if the Legendary Dreadnought's Volcano's Edge ability/skill works on short swords or rapiers?
The ability looks awesome. If so, this is worth slotting as a twist of fate.

[karl_k0ch]

Does anyone know if the Legendary Dreadnought's Volcano's Edge ability/skill works on short swords or rapiers?
The ability looks awesome. If so, this is worth slotting as a twist of fate.

It does: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...75&postcount=2

Bastard Sword, Dagger, Falchion, Greatsword, Kama, Khopesh, Kukri, Longsword, Rapier, Scimitar, Shortsword, Sickle.

[sephiroth1084]

Imho, the new way for rogues assassins is full DEX/INT, dual-wielding eMG, twisting tier4 Unyielding Sentinel or Fury of the Wild weapon alignment buff, twisting the tier 1 1.5 more W and tier 2 3% Doublestrike from Grandmaster of Flower. If you don't go into Shadowdancer, you could twist the +6 DC to Assassinate instead of the 3% Doublestrike.

However I think, there is no reason to take anything else as a primary ED than Shadowdancer. If the bugs are fixed with Devourer and Executioner Strike we are talking about 4 instakill-mechanics on different cool downs. Hard to beat and hard to not top the kill count in any group.

All of the weapon buffs from Sentinel are tied to the stances, and the +1.5[W] from Grandmaster is tied to being centered. You could give up wearing armor for that, but with PRR and AC mattering a bit, I'm not sure it's worth doing so. The doublestrike I believe works regardless, though.

Fury of the Wild's Evil Outsider Bane + Cold Iron seems like a good twist, but I don't know if I really want to spend levels in there.

For quick, useful twists, I'm thinking the +40% Fortification and +2 saves from tier 1 Sentinel looks pretty good. Maybe 3% Dodge from Grandmaster along with the doublestrike.

[Scortius]

I've thinking about the stacking 9 Spell Resistance (Serenity) from Grandmaster of Flowers. I have an item giving me 30, so could hit 39, or maybe 41. SR41 would have been very strong in the old content- not sure what kind of SR checks various casters in new content or in EE's can make.

If it would save me from getting held when I didn't have a source of FoM, it might be a pretty good quality of life upgrade.

Edit: I'm informed that this doesn't work the way I thought at the moment

[sephiroth1084]

Updated OP with wondering regarding gear in the new content.

[Tid12]

All of the weapon buffs from Sentinel are tied to the stances, and the +1.5[W] from Grandmaster is tied to being centered. You could give up wearing armor for that, but with PRR and AC mattering a bit, I'm not sure it's worth doing so. The doublestrike I believe works regardless, though.

Fury of the Wild's Evil Outsider Bane + Cold Iron seems like a good twist, but I don't know if I really want to spend levels in there.

For quick, useful twists, I'm thinking the +40% Fortification and +2 saves from tier 1 Sentinel looks pretty good. Maybe 3% Dodge from Grandmaster along with the doublestrike.

On my rog, dex build, I'm planning:

ED with Twists:

- Tunnel Vision (1d12 dmg extra, yes please)
- Sense weakness (not sure, I like Volcano's edge too and also Primal scream, Healing spring, Alignment twists..a lot of things I like)
- 40% fort from US


Also, I'm not sure the "Take x1 ISA" is a bug anymore, no dev commented in the various threads. For now, I'm just planning to take ISA and Precision on my Epic feats.

[sephiroth1084]

On my rog, dex build, I'm planning:

ED with Twists:

- Tunnel Vision (1d12 dmg extra, yes please)
- Sense weakness (not sure, I like Volcano's edge too and also Primal scream, Healing spring, Alignment twists..a lot of things I like)
- 40% fort from US


Also, I'm not sure the "Take x1 ISA" is a bug anymore, no dev commented in the various threads. For now, I'm just planning to take ISA and Precision on my Epic feats.

I'm not thrilled about a Fort penalty on my already squishy rogue--I guess the extra Fort twist in compensates for that.
Sense Weakness looks good, but is a rather high level twist.

[Tid12]

I'm not thrilled about a Fort penalty on my already squishy rogue--I guess the extra Fort twist in compensates for that.
Sense Weakness looks good, but is a rather high level twist.

The extra fort twist is kinda mandatory in the new pack and EE. In EE, they bypass a lot of fort and crit for a lot of damage. I'm getting it even on my sorc.

Sense weakness, I don't know yet but it looks powerfull. I will try it tomorrow on my rogue and let you know how that works.

[soloist12]

Imo i'd twist a few more defensive abilities, as a high isa rogue with 50% or more fort bypass with epic weapons doesn't really need more offense. Though, shadowform and 20% base dodge along with uncanny/displace emergencies seems to have helped my assassin dramatically.

In truth, i have no idea what to twist.. :/

[destiny4405]

for regular quests and easy raids, i go with fatesinger and fey spring/healing spring/brace for impact twists.

for max dps, i go with SD and sense weakness/tunnel vision/imp martial arts twists.

[Tid12]

Just tried FotW and Sense weakness/Tunnel Vision and...wow, I'm amazed.

The damage from Sense weakness is soo powerfull. I'll sure twist it in on my rogue. Adrenaline is awesome and the epic moment of this destiny is some big dps and not too hard to charge. I think I did some 1k+ damage with it with some lucky crit.

On boss raid fights, I'm actually thinking to go for FotW. When there is a lot of trash and normal question, I'll probably switch to SD.

So, for my rogue, finesse build, I'll probably twist:

- Sense Weakness
- Reign if they fix it/Tunnel vision
- Brace for impact