European servers?

[Lynix]

So, while this may not really be me having technical issues, it still bothers me a little and affects my play style.

I know that a while back you did have European servers, but due to the lack of players they shut down and the players on them was offered to move to a US server.

Now, with the game on steam giving it a little more players, would it be possible to get at least 1 EU server up and running?

While the game is certainly playable for me right now, playing a game with this combat system as a monk with 130+ ms constantly can get frustrating at times.

I don't really like having to predict when an enemy is going to do something because i can't time it otherwise.
If an enemy is about to cast something big at me, while it is certainly possible to move out of the way, most of the time if I'm surrounded or there's more than one enemy on the field, it'll bug out so on my screen I'll run through the mobs but then teleport back just when i thought i was safe.

Anyways, like i said before: Would it in any way be possible to maybe, hopefully, sometime in the future get at least 1 server up and running in the EU? I don't know how much it'd cost, but surely there must be enough people from the EU that plays it to cover the cost?

Thanks

[Uska]

I think if it was economically feasible they would have kept one but who knows maybe you will get lucky. Not knocking Europe I love it there in fact my wife is from there.

[Flavilandile]

Well technically Wayfinder might be considered an European Server... Being a German Language Server.

Now the cost associated with having the hardware for a DDO server hosted somewhere in Europe ( say at AT&T Data Center in Amsterdam ) is probably too high.

Just the technical requirements for it to interface with the billing & accounting on the other side of the Pond makes it not very economical.

[Lynix]

Well technically Wayfinder might be considered an European Server... Being a German Language Server.

Now the cost associated with having the hardware for a DDO server hosted somewhere in Europe ( say at AT&T Data Center in Amsterdam ) is probably too high.

Just the technical requirements for it to interface with the billing & accounting on the other side of the Pond makes it not very economical.

I don't find Wayfinder to be even considered a European server. They just speak German there mostly. The server itself is still located in the US so the ping is exactly the same.

I can see why it might be a problem though. But still, i really hope that they'll at least re-consider opening a European server.

[NUDS]

I feel your pain as a player from the UK.

It does suck having constant 150+ ms and permanent rubber-banding all over the place. However this does give me a legit "It was lag!" excuse. I've adjusted my play-style to manage the 0.5 second delays and "You are not facing x" mechanics. This does mean mario-jumps and timing traps/spells are harder as you said, I would teleport all over the place.

If the game gets more popular (and more importantly gets more $$$) then it may be feasible to see EU servers soon, which would make me very happy

[Lynix]

I feel your pain as a player from the UK.

It does suck having constant 150+ ms and permanent rubber-banding all over the place. However this does give me a legit "It was lag!" excuse. I've adjusted my play-style to manage the 0.5 second delays and "You are not facing x" mechanics. This does mean mario-jumps and timing traps/spells are harder as you said, I would teleport all over the place.

If the game gets more popular (and more importantly gets more $$$) then it may be feasible to see EU servers soon, which would make me very happy

Indeed.

As of right now it's only really me and 1 other friend who's playing it frequently. We have tried to get others to start, and they did say that they liked the game over all, but the lag and then the combat system / trap system got a bit too annoying which caused them to quit before reaching lower-mid levels (Before the really awesome adventures / skills).

[Aurora1979]

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I know that a while back you did have European servers, but due to the lack of players they shut down and the players on them was offered to move to a US server.

Just want to clear this up.

The Euro (codemasters) servers were not closed JUST because they had low population.

They had low population because of a dispute between Turbine and atari..... I think.

This resulted in codemasters not being able to release anything or discuss the issue.

This caused people to leave the game.

Once the legal issue was resloved there were hardly any players left.

BUT, with regard to your OP.

I think they should bite the bullet, admit there was no reason to open a "German" server. No more so then opening a Spanish, Portugesse..... probably a couple of asian countries etc.....

They all have as many players as Germany I'm sure.

If all the Euro players had one location they knew there was a high chance of a large local prime time population then that can only be a good thing.

[Lynix]

Just want to clear this up.

The Euro (codemasters) servers were not closed JUST because they had low population.

They had low population because of a dispute between Turbine and atari..... I think.

This resulted in codemasters not being able to release anything or discuss the issue.

This caused people to leave the game.

Once the legal issue was resloved there were hardly any players left.

BUT, with regard to your OP.

I think they should bite the bullet, admit there was no reason to open a "German" server. No more so then opening a Spanish, Portugesse..... probably a couple of asian countries etc.....

They all have as many players as Germany I'm sure.

If all the Euro players had one location they knew there was a high chance of a large local prime time population then that can only be a good thing.

Ahh i see.

And agreed, i think if they did the same as they did last time where they announced that they would be closing (or in this case opening) servers and that you could transfer for free and then made it clear that it was a server based in Europe, they'd have a lot more players from Europe.

[bigolbear]

well my 2 english pennies are:

1. I dont want to move AGAIN.
2. 130 ms latency is not whats screwing your reaction times, its most likely graphics lag which is fixed by tweaking your settings. We do occasionaly get as bit of loss but im sure they do in the US too. 130ms is like 1/7th or so of a second... and when we had EU servers the latency was around 60 ms. so a difference of less than 1/10th of second, its realy not the network latency that is giving you that slow sluggish feeling.
3. I sincerely doubt there are enough EU players to support a healthy server population outside of peak times.

[Lynix]

well my 2 english pennies are:

1. I dont want to move AGAIN.
2. 130 ms latency is not whats screwing your reaction times, its most likely graphics lag which is fixed by tweaking your settings. We do occasionaly get as bit of loss but im sure they do in the US too. 130ms is like 1/7th or so of a second... and when we had EU servers the latency was around 60 ms. so a difference of less than 1/10th of second, its realy not the network latency that is giving you that slow sluggish feeling.
3. I sincerely doubt there are enough EU players to support a healthy server population outside of peak times.

1. I can see why it would be troublesome to move again, but I'd be more than happy to. Also It'd be optional

2. While true that 130 ms is only 1/7'th of a second, and it might not matter in most MMO's, it definitely does in DDO as a melee. At least that's what i feel. Being rubber-banded all over the place has nothing to do with my graphical settings. I run the game on the highest settings possible, no FPS lag at all, but when i climb a ladder or try to just grab on to a ladder i will get stuck in a loop of the same animation on my screen for about 0.5 seconds of me going up the ladder or reaching the top.

In many cases, with the ladders in this case, it causes me to, on my screen, get to the top of the ladder and climb up, but when i catch up to what really happened on the server, I'm already about to run off the other side of the platform i just climbed on to on my screen.

FPS = Frames Per Second = Your Hardware / Graphical Settings
MS (ping) = Milliseconds = Your connection to the server / Server connection to you

3. The Germans got an entire server for "themselves" to speak German on. That alone should give some sense of the amount of Europeans playing the game.


The MS for the combat is not TOO bad, i can still get off my combo's as a monk, but not without a little difficulty. However it is very noticeable when i climb things, get hindered / blocked by mobs / slippery effects or just in general.

[Lynix]

Bumping this because even after a year, there still isn't European servers, and i still really want them.

It is the only thing that keeps me and all my friends from playing this over any other game out there.

[DiGreyer]

Bumping this because even after a year, there still isn't European servers, and i still really want them.

It is the only thing that keeps me and all my friends from playing this over any other game out there.

I am guessing there is still no movement on this matter? I would really like to have an EU based server as well although my reasons are a bit different - and namely playerbase. Having a dedicated server for EU players will mean that there will be a place for payers in relativly close Time zone. I like playing in party but it is hard to find players when I play becuase of time difference. Late in the evening - 00:00 - 4:00 (GMT+2) the servers are full but in the morning or some normal evening hours there are hardly any players on, which is motly because they are spread among all the other servers.

[Flavilandile]

Bumping this because even after a year, there still isn't European servers, and i still really want them.

It is the only thing that keeps me and all my friends from playing this over any other game out there.

You won't have one. If Codemaster shut down it's server 3 years ago it's not to open a new one now...
When every information we have shows that there's less people playing than 3 years ago.
It's not an economically viable option.

I am guessing there is still no movement on this matter? I would really like to have an EU based server as well although my reasons are a bit different - and namely playerbase. Having a dedicated server for EU players will mean that there will be a place for payers in relativly close Time zone. I like playing in party but it is hard to find players when I play becuase of time difference. Late in the evening - 00:00 - 4:00 (GMT+2) the servers are full but in the morning or some normal evening hours there are hardly any players on, which is motly because they are spread among all the other servers.

No movement.
European Player base is spread out on Ghallanda ( where the Former Codemasters players were dumped ), Thelanis, Khyber ( where many of those that fleed the sinking Codemasters Ship fled ), Cannith and Orien ( where the rest fled to. )
You also have Wayfinder, that has been created only for the purpose of avoiding legal problems with German Laws.

Party ( aka LFM ) is dead for other reasons than the lack of people.
There is no incentive to group, and every incentive to play solo. - ******** Streak, No Death Bonus, Dungeon Scaling, ... you name it the list is long -
The best way to find parties nowadays is to be invited in private chat channels and use them to make parties. Also large Guilds make finding parties easier