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    /not signed


    roll with the punches man.

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    94 self buffed AC on a 6th life toon on live, step into the beta and I magically turn into a barb that gets hit every single time! totally /signed

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    /not signed

    New system not what I was hoping for, but vastly better than old.

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    /not signed
    I don't really like the Expansion's combat changes,
    but a d20 system is no longer the way to go
    if you don't like it, use the free respec they are giving you to change your character arround

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    /signed

    but durnak has a better solution
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    Red face

    Signed, new system seemed even more confusing than the last one.
    Fix the ladders first.

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    /not signed. I have been having a lot of fun on the beta lately, more so than live. But i am pleasantly amazed at all the not signeds after all the doom threads claiming everyone will quit ddo the day of the release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityTurtle View Post
    /not signed. I have been having a lot of fun on the beta lately, more so than live. But i am pleasantly amazed at all the not signeds after all the doom threads claiming everyone will quit ddo the day of the release.
    I'm more scared that so many seem not to grasp the implications of the changes, nor feel the need to keep DDO D&D-like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn00gans View Post
    94 self buffed AC on a 6th life toon on live, step into the beta and I magically turn into a barb that gets hit every single time! totally /signed
    You do realize that if the expansion went live with current mechanics your 94 AC would = 5% enemy miss chance since new content is all level 20+...the new system is an upgrade for you except in cake walk content.

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    So it looks like the only people who signed this are maxed-out AC builds and casters who don't want to give up their god-like instakill death spells.

    That's pretty much what I expected.

    Personally, the new combat system has its own problems but is still an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith_Sarevok View Post
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    So it looks like the only people who signed this are maxed-out AC builds and casters who don't want to give up their god-like instakill death spells.

    That's pretty much what I expected.

    Personally, the new combat system has its own problems but is still an improvement.
    Woot?

    My highest AC character has like 65ish AC unbuffed. My sorcs have abysmal necro DCs, and my one PM wizard is stuck in TR at level 14-15 or something because I hate playing it.

    I hate the new system because it devalues building and gearing, and steps away from D&D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith_Sarevok View Post
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    So it looks like the only people who signed this are maxed-out AC builds and casters who don't want to give up their god-like instakill death spells.
    Wow that is one subjective and erroneous conclusion. Every single one of my toons will gain from this change. Still think it is the worst thing that has happened in 6 years of DDO and have not bought the expansion bc of it

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    /not signed. I have been having a lot of fun on the beta lately, more so than live. But i am pleasantly amazed at all the not signeds after all the doom threads claiming everyone will quit ddo the day of the release.
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    I love all these 'the current system is BROKEN' posts. I've been listening to that garbage for two years and I can say it is a load of rubbish.

    AC works fine until epic level content where it becomes all or nothing. 60ish AC noticeably mitigates damage through L18 content.

    Tossing out the current system 'because it's broke' is a red herring and a bad reason to do so since only a small % of players play epic content. Obviously Turbine needed to do something to encourage more players to play epics and buy the expansion, but the system they've cobbled together isn't very good for a number of reasons that have been analyzed in other threads.

    But it is what it is and nothing is going to change in the 11th hour to stop this train. With all the fun bugs and glitches that the players have already identified that we know are going to make it into live, the new AC and to hit systems will be the least of our problems.

    The shadenfreude in me can't wait to see the threads that crop up next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postumus View Post
    The shadenfreude in me can't wait to see the threads that crop up next week.
    I agree there will be a lot of threads next week. I stocked up on popcorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aashrym View Post
    I stocked up on popcorn
    Shr plz!
    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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    I'd sign, but they don't give a f
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    I hate the new system because it devalues building and gearing, and steps away from D&D.
    Unfortunately(or fortunately), characters still get stronger when you have a better build as compared to a lousy one. Characters still get stronger with better gear as compared to no gear.
    Perhaps we are stepping away from D&D, and that might be why it is called DDO instead of D&D. Majority of the people agree that the D20 AC system is flawed and this is the Dev's answer.


    Like it or not, this petition will have no effect because it has already been decided that they will roll out the new package. Closed beta was out in May, Open Beta in June. Calling for a petition just before an update will prevent nothing from happening.
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    /signed, as long as they fix the problems with combat at high level - KISS.

    But I expect that the game will now be far easier, so a lot of people will certainly like that.
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    Definitely not signed.

    Why do people want AC to be irrelevant except to the most extreme of min-maxers and for survivability to be solely about Shield Mastery and Toughness feats?

    I welcome the end to cookie-cutter character defenses.
    I don't have a zerging problem.

    I'm zerging. That's YOUR problem.

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