SIGN to keep the current combat system that on the Live severs

[rsking]

like the title saids sign if you want to keep the current live combat system

/signed

[pearlharbor66]

It is really to late to do anything now. Turbine is going to go forward with the new changes they made and theres no going back. /Not signed

[MsEricka]

/not signed

Asking for a change to game mechanics three days before release is like asking for a 2014 model car in 2012.

[Svartelric]

I don't care, I need more feats for my Ranger :P

[Drakos]

A little late to be asking.

/Not Signed

[TempestAlphaOmega]

/not signed

[AbyssalMage]

/not signed

Asking for a change to game mechanics three days before release is like asking for a 2014 model car in 2012.

So what you are saying is that its better to go forward with something that isn't working and fix it later vs. shelf it for another update?

May not happen (reality sucks) but not speaking out is worse.

[Missing_Minds]

So what you are saying is that its better to go forward with something that isn't working and fix it later vs. shelf it for another update?

As I stated elsewhere, experienced DMs already knew how broke D20 AC was at the upper levels. The difference between here and table top is the fact that living DMs could fudge things on the fly to keep it fun, and to let non combat optimal builds still have a blast.

So, by your own logic, Yes, they did go forward with something that wouldn't work and are now trying to fix it.

And I guarantee you that WotC will be watching to see how this plays out.

[danotmano1998]

/Not signed

1. They've already put in tons of work. It's a done deal at this point, in all but live application.

2. I've played the new combat system changes, and they aren't horrible. Are they perfect? Heck no. Could they use some tweaking? sure. But IMO, this new combat system allows more flexibility for builds, encounters, items, etc..

3. Really, the combat change is one of the LEAST poor ideas they've put into the expansion, IMO. There are other more important topics to many players I would rather they paid attention to first.

4. /Signing it will not make any difference. It's what we have, now let's learn to adapt and overcome. Heck, it might even be BETTER in some cases.

[MrkGrismer]

Oh... I'm sorry I thought this was the petition to turn night into day and day into night...


... moving along...

[karl_k0ch]

/not signed.

[Chai]

So what you are saying is that its better to go forward with something that isn't working and fix it later vs. shelf it for another update?

May not happen (reality sucks) but not speaking out is worse.

So youre for not replacing something that isnt working with something else that also isnt working, because the semantics of how the new system doesnt work are different than the semantics of how the current system doesnt work, solely because we cant be bothered to learn a new system that doesnt work because doing so takes us out of our established comfort zone in the current system which doesnt work.

Reminds me of the insurance debacle here in America.

Damned if they do.
Damned if they dont.
Film at 11.

[Nephilia]

/not signed: The mechanics looks interesting to me and I would like to give it a try, at least

[samthedagger]

/not signed

I want to give it a try. If it does not work, they will tweak it until it does. I generally have faith in Turbine to do a good job with their updates. They are doing something about the fact that AC becomes meaningless at high levels, which has been a complaint about the game from a good many players for a long time. Good on them. Even if it ends up being a small step in the right direction, it is still a step in the right direction.

[MRMechMan]

The cure is definitely worse than the disease, but it is too late to do anything about it for the release.

[Pewf]

/Not Signed

Did some testing, I like them.

[Stillwaters]

/not signed

The old broken system DID need to be tweaked
This new broken system has so many exploitable flaws and holes in it, they cannot possibly keep it as is.
A slightly less broken system will be worked on to replace this pile of dog doo

but im a dreamer (and a DM with 20+ years experience)

reason the old system broke was too many stacking modifiers, re-balancing them would cause as much outcry (but would be fair)
there are tons of less broken models to choose from to "combat" the combat problem but nowhere near enough time to implement it.
The turbine Dev that came up with this proposed system should get the sack, or at least a lump of coal for xmas.

But hey, DDO has a free-to-play system, abuse that until its fixed, just don't pay em till they fix it properly.

[HatsuharuZ]

/not signed

I want % damage mitigation, and I have no problems with to-hit. Sorry :P

[Loromir]

It's gotta happen sometime...bite the bullet and go for it.

/Not signed.

[SableShadow]

but im a dreamer (and a DM with 20+ years experience)

+1

Sorry, I have to, no cheekiness intended:

~O Some people call me the Dungeon Master
Some people call me "that $%#"
Some people call me Dee Emm
'Cause I speak of quests run and done

I'm a dreamer
I'm a player
I'm a long time slayer
Running quests way before Eberron O~

The old broken system DID need to be tweaked
This new broken system has so many exploitable flaws and holes in it, they cannot possibly keep it as is.

That's pretty much how I feel about it, though not to the same degree; we'll see a lot of tweaks with each patch and a major revision as part of the enhancements update.

At this point, though, I can't see making changes before launch ... far too little time.
It is what it is.