Will the "heavy fort" bug be fixed on live?

[Ape_Man]

How come this bug wasn't mentioned before now? Did it just start with the last build?

I posted about that AND bug reported it.

[Ape_Man]

The "re-calcuate a millon things everytime you swap something" never made any snese and causes so much lag. That code needs to be deleted and re-written to be fast and simple.

/signed

[Ape_Man]

Bump, a dev's word on this would be nice

LOL - ain't gonna happen. They're too busy trying to convince people that the new raid and challenge loot is worth pursuing

[Thrudh]

Yea this applies to not just heavy fort.

But every thing in the game. EVen effects from EDs that should be permanent can be lost.

Very frusterating bug that makes the game seem so random and unplayable at times.

The "re-calcuate a millon things everytime you swap something" never made any snese and causes so much lag. That code needs to be deleted and re-written to be fast and simple.

Then why in the world are you all guys talking about any other bugs at all? Why isn't this issue a 1000 post thread?

This is a game-breaking bug. One spell being nerfed is not.

[Ape_Man]

Then why in the world are you all guys talking about any other bugs at all? Why isn't this issue a 1000 post thread?

This is a game-breaking bug. One spell being nerfed is not.

I and others posted about this and bug reported it in the private beta.

Why was this not made a big deal? because it's so game-breakingly obviously terrible everyone assumed it'd be fixed.

[Feralthyrtiaq]

I believe I read somewhere that it's not working properly...

They are aware of it....

But it won't be fixed June 25th.

They have too many other cute adorable useless pets to develope and sell.

I guess my $198 for 2 VIP subs (myself and GF) and $80 for CE XPAC isn't enough...

They have to sell Furbies, Tickle me Elmos, and Baby Alives to make up for what the CONTENT doesn't bring in.

[Ape_Man]

I believe I read somewhere that it's not working properly...

They are aware of it....

But it won't be fixed June 25th.

They have too many other cute adorable useless pets to develope and sell.

I guess my $198 for 2 VIP subs (myself and GF) and $80 for CE XPAC isn't enough...

They have to sell Furbies, Tickle me Elmos, and Baby Alives to make up for what the CONTENT doesn't bring in.

In all fairness I doubt the same people who make the useless fluff in this game (which I myself have spent too much money on) are the same people who would fix something like this. Turbine has a few hundred employee so I'm sure they have multiple people addressing different things.

And this is extremely annoying but you can work around it. I am in no way defending Turbine's lack of action on this but you can still function.

[danotmano1998]

As it is now whenever you change a weapon "style" - like going TWFing to a bow or handwraps - the effects of all your worn gear cease to function until they are dequiped and re-equipped. it's particularly annoying and borderline game-breaking.

Will this be fixed for live?

Whaaaaaa?

Having all your equipped gear effects just vanish is indeed borderline game breaking.
I'd venture to say you could drop the word borderline off there and just go with "game breaking".
Sure, you might be able to work around it, but re-equipping all your gear and/or just not playing your character well don't seem like very good options to me.

I don't remember reading this anywhere in known issues, which is pretty scary.
And we're 4 days away.

[katz]

i finally got a chance to do some testing:

results:
on my paladin/monk:
swapping between different bladed weapons - no changes
swapping between different handwraps - no changes
swapping from handwraps to shuriken and back - no changes
swapping from blade to handwraps/shuriken or back - fort and whatnot went screwy

on my cleric/monk/wiz (with zen archery):
swapping between all bows - no changes
swapping between all staffs/wands/scrolls - no changes
swapping between staff, handwraps, and bows - no changes
equipped throwing dagger to test on/off centeredness - fort and whatnot went screwy

on my bard/barb/rogue:
all weapon swaps (THF/TWF/S&B/bow/thrown) resulted in no change whatsoever

conclusion: it's something to do with changing status between centered and off-centered that is making fort and whatnot go screwy.

secondary conclusion: monks and monk splashes are gonna be ****ed if this goes live.

edit: submitted a bug listing my findings.

[Cyr]

i finally got a chance to do some testing:

results:
on my paladin/monk:
swapping between different bladed weapons - no changes
swapping between different handwraps - no changes
swapping from handwraps to shuriken and back - no changes
swapping from blade to handwraps/shuriken or back - fort and whatnot went screwy

on my cleric/monk/wiz (with zen archery):
swapping between all bows - no changes
swapping between all staffs/wands/scrolls - no changes
swapping between staff, handwraps, and bows - no changes
equipped throwing dagger to test on/off centeredness - fort and whatnot went screwy

on my bard/barb/rogue:
all weapon swaps (THF/TWF/S&B/bow/thrown) resulted in no change whatsoever

conclusion: it's something to do with changing status between centered and off-centered that is making fort and whatnot go screwy.

secondary conclusion: monks and monk splashes are gonna be ****ed if this goes live.

Nod, my guildy was testing this on Lammania for us last night with his 18 fighter/2 pali/whatever epic destiny and was not seeing this pop up with bow to S&B conversion.

Makes sense that this is a centered thing then or perhaps a intermittent issue with the others?

[Archangel666]

I pity the poor Clonks out there. Can you imagine the fun of getting hit with something like ray of enfeeblement and having their GS SP items suddenly dump their SP?

Abbot should be...even more "appealing" for divines

[Ape_Man]

i finally got a chance to do some testing:

results:
on my paladin/monk:
swapping between different bladed weapons - no changes
swapping between different handwraps - no changes
swapping from handwraps to shuriken and back - no changes
swapping from blade to handwraps/shuriken or back - fort and whatnot went screwy

on my cleric/monk/wiz (with zen archery):
swapping between all bows - no changes
swapping between all staffs/wands/scrolls - no changes
swapping between staff, handwraps, and bows - no changes
equipped throwing dagger to test on/off centeredness - fort and whatnot went screwy

on my bard/barb/rogue:
all weapon swaps (THF/TWF/S&B/bow/thrown) resulted in no change whatsoever

conclusion: it's something to do with changing status between centered and off-centered that is making fort and whatnot go screwy.

secondary conclusion: monks and monk splashes are gonna be ****ed if this goes live.

Yup. It also happens when you equip a bow and vice versa.

[PopeJual]

As it is now whenever you change a weapon "style" - like going TWFing to a bow or handwraps - the effects of all your worn gear cease to function until they are dequiped and re-equipped. it's particularly annoying and borderline game-breaking.

Will this be fixed for live?

Sorry, all features are now locked and bugs will be fixed throughout the summer. Enjoy the new feature!

[Archangel666]

Sorry, all features are now locked and bugs will be fixed throughout the summer. Enjoy the new feature!

On the plus side my AA is a pure Ranger. Lets see the Monkchers tell me how I should have splashed monk now. :P

[katz]

equipping a bow IF YOU HAVE ZEN ARCHERY has no effect. i tested that on my AA clonk.

so similar abilities like ninja spy + short swords and whirling steel strike + longswords should have similar results (ei: no change)

equipping a bow on my bard resulted in no change

[Ovrad]

In all fairness I doubt the same people who make the useless fluff in this game (which I myself have spent too much money on) are the same people who would fix something like this. Turbine has a few hundred employee so I'm sure they have multiple people addressing different things.

Maybe, but if you were to cut the people designing the useless puppies, they would have more budget for more programmers that can actually fix stuff.

secondary conclusion: monks and monk splashes are gonna be ****ed if this goes live.

That we already knew, half the stuff don't work for monks... Everyone knows monks are always buggy but instead of double checking to prevent said bugs, it feels like Turbine employees are covered their eyes and ears screaming "If I don't see the bug it's not my problem!"

[brian14]

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[redspecter23]

I have this feeling the xpac will go live on Monday, then 5 minutes later all the servers will come down for 5 days of emergency "fixes". That way, they get to technically meet the deadline and then get an extra week to work on it as well.

[Ape_Man]

Maybe, but if you were to cut the people designing the useless puppies, they would have more budget for more programmers that can actually fix stuff.

You know how much money the useless "puppies" brings in? i'd say it's the opposite, the useless puppies pays for more programers.

[Malky]

You know how much money the useless "puppies" brings in? i'd say it's the opposite, the useless puppies pays for more programers.

I'm afraid you're right (for once! j/k)

Btw what happened to your DoOm level ? it looks like it's not updating anymore, this leads me to think there's another bug hiding somewhere, you caught it and won't share until it goes live just to have a good laugh... amirite ?