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    Default Last Appeal: Make SD ToD Ring stack with SD Stance

    There was some discussion of this conflated with and lost in the discussion of the other Fighter PRE (which was resolved with re-typing Kensai STR Surge), but I'd like to draw attention to this one last time:

    With the change of Exceptional +1 stats on ToD rings re-typed to "competence" bonus, it produces the counter-intuitive result that the +1 CON bonus from the Band of Siberys (of the Stalwart Defender ToD Set) no longer stacks with the +2/4/6 CON bonus from Stalwart Defender Stance, which has always been typed as a "competence" bonus.

    For the same reason, none of the +1 STR bonuses on any ToD rings will stack with the +2/4/6 STR bonus from Stalwart Defender Stance. (DoS pallies need not worry since their +2/4/6 STR/CON bonus from stance is a "sacred" bonus.)

    I can not know the minds of the devs, but it seems intuitively that this is not a planned result. I understand the need to "type" the previously untyped "exceptional" stat bonuses. But this change seems to arbitrarily nerf Stalwart Defenders.

    Was this an intended nerf? Or the unintended result of a global change to ToD ring stat bonus typing? If the latter, I'm making one last public appeal to have the ToD Ring +1 or the SD +STR/CON bonus retyped so they continue to stack with each other as they always have on live.

    Thanks.
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    You shouldn't get a boost from the new bard song feat either. It seems to be typed competence as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keybreaker View Post
    I'm making one last public appeal to have the ToD Ring +1 or the SD +STR/CON bonus retyped so they continue to stack with each other as they always have on live.
    If this is unintended I'd expect it changed about when they make enhancement changes. Hopefully they'll type the STR/CON bonuses you get to something else.

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    They ****ed up with the ability bonuses big time. They have the exceptional type already available, but don't want to use it, because of it's stacking nature. Well, since there are no different exceptional bonuses left in the game, there is no fear of us getting an accidental astronomical +2 boost to an ability.
    It's like they are afraid of their own creation and with the deadlines coming fast, they are frantically making changes based on instinct instead of thinking them through.

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    There is no acceptable explanation for this change. please change it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B0ltdrag0n View Post
    You shouldn't get a boost from the new bard song feat either. It seems to be typed competence as well.
    Boo. That would suck.
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    Has there been any response to this?

    I haven't heard a dev (or anyone else with any specific information) comment on this.


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