Not a single new wiz/sor spell, nor can we use the druid ones

[Shade]

Now im no druid expert.. But pretty sure several of the druid spells also qualify as arcane.

Yet we can select none, just went thru the full spell swap list on my sorc, nothing new.

Not even call lightning strike, which Eladrin specifically said was gona be an air savant spell eventually.

I am Disappoint.

[Auran82]

We especially need high level damage spells.

[mwgarn]

Wuld have been nice to see some new spells, though I thought Druid spells where divine and I'm sure a lot of divine would really like to see a few more offensive spells from the Druid spell book..

Personally with wail chaining and evocation based dc spells being the majority of damage spells I would like to see more necro dc based damage spells.. But not anything in level 4 or 5 got to many hard choices for them already, whould like to see hard choices further up.

[taurean430]

Earthquake and Storm of Vengence are supposed to be available to the other divine classes but are not from what I hear so far.

Disappoint is a good term. Better than anything I've muttered thusfar...

[Shade]

Wuld have been nice to see some new spells, though I thought Druid spells where divine and I'm sure a lot of divine would really like to see a few more offensive spells from the Druid spell book..

Several spells are both arcane and divine. Same goes for some of the druid ones.

EG clr ones: Resists, Nightshield, Prot evil, etc.

[legendlore]

Now im no druid expert.. But pretty sure several of the druid spells also qualify as arcane.

Not true for the druid spells added. While they are available to arcane classes in pnp they're not available to Wizards and Sorcerers. Bards can get Storm of vengeance (as Stormsingers) and of course Artificers can mimic any spell as long as they craft them.

Several spells are both arcane and divine. Same goes for some of the druid ones.

Spells per se aren't Divine or Arcane it's the casting class that define what type they are.

[azrael4h]

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/druidSpells.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists...zardSpells.htm

Of all the Druid spells that were added, none were on the Sorc/Wizard spell list. The only Druid/Wiz/Sorc spells were already in game.

A few, however, are on Cleric/FvS spell lists. An Artificer one, Align Weapons, is as well, actually.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/clericSpells.htm

[Chette]

Which of the druid spells are also categorized as wizard/sorcerer spells in the SRD? I haven't looked through this myself, but had heard that there were not any.

There are druid spells though that are also categorized as cleric spells, including some rather nice ones such as storm of vengeance and earthquake.

[deahamlet]

I'm getting tired of my level 8-9 list mostly being instakill and cc spells cause otherwise all I have is polar ray and black dragon bolt. I either don't use top level spells or run around pretending I'm a wizard with lame DCs.

[Diyon]

Body of the Sun is supposed to also be a wizard/sorc lvl2 spell, but they've changed that one a lot and chained it to fire elemental form at higher lvl.

I can't think of any of the other nonPHB spells that are supposed to be wiz/sorc also off the top of my head though.

[sigtrent]

A number of the iconic Druid spells are druid exclusives. That is traditional for D&D.

We may see the lightning storm come in for savants in the Enhancement revamp.

[nivarch]

Agreed some druid spells should end up on the divine (and arcane) spell lists.
Clerics and FvS in particular are in dire need of new spells.

Spells per se aren't Divine or Arcane it's the casting class that define what type they are.

True. Nice to see someone actually correcting this

[Diyon]

Agreed some druid spells should end up on the divine (and arcane) spell lists.
Clerics and FvS in particular are in dire need of new spells.


True. Nice to see someone actually correcting this

And a number of them that druids (DDO list) have are on the cleric list too. However, while I agree that clerics/fvs need some new high lvl spells, I think that since the druid spell list is confined in DDO to a small list currently, that giving clerics and fvs these spells right now would take away some of the uniqueness of the druid class. For that matter, there are a few cleric/fvs spells in DDO that should also be on the druid list, like comet fall.