YAMA (Yet Another Monk Archer) - request for feedback

[Kancho]

With the changes to displacement I've been toying with the idea of an elf monk archer build to take advantage of the dragon marks. Admittedly you lose the sneak attacks from the Helf builds and it's a bit tight fitting in the marks (forcing a Wizard level rather than the Artificer for the free extend feat). I would have liked to have fit at least improved two weapon fighting in there but didn't really see a way around it. What are your thoughts (prior lives were 11 Ranger / 8 Monk / 1 Artificer split with full UMD and search/disable so will miss that). Never mind the feat order was basically trying to see what I could fit in with the builder and didn't bother going back and optimizing them (if you have suggestions I'm all ears though so fire away)

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Elf Male
(6 Fighter \ 13 Monk \ 1 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 325
Spell Points: 200 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 14
Will: 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    17
Dexterity            17                    19
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               16                    24
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    28
Bluff                -1                     0
Concentration         6                    29
Diplomacy            -1                     0
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                     0
Heal                  3                     7
Hide                  3                    10
Intimidate           -1                     4
Jump                  2                    27
Listen                3                     9
Move Silently         3                     8
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     3
Spot                  3                     9
Swim                  2                    20
Tumble                n/a                   7
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
Enhancement: Improved Jump I


Level 8 (Monk)
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Adept of Rain


Level 10 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I


Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Bow Strength
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Ten Thousand Stars


Level 14 (Monk)
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows


Level 16 (Monk)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows


Level 17 (Monk)
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use III


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows


Level 19 (Monk)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II


Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows

[Fungi]

you might consider going diplomacy over swim if you are going to use the ranger epic levels.

[wax_on_wax_off]

What's wrong with scrolling displacement on yourself with that full UMD?

[Kancho]

Mostly for duration as a scrolled displace is a bit over 30 seconds whereas the mark would inherit the extend enhancement as well so you'd be looking at around 4, maybe 5, minutes for a mark displacement.

Regarding the diplo that's a good point. I usually pick up swim as Crucible on elite it comes in handy and I didn't really have anything else to do with the points except UMD (but wouldn't get it very high).

Thanks again for the feedback. Looking forward to more.

[wax_on_wax_off]

Mostly for duration as a scrolled displace is a bit over 30 seconds whereas the mark would inherit the extend enhancement as well so you'd be looking at around 4, maybe 5, minutes for a mark displacement.

Regarding the diplo that's a good point. I usually pick up swim as Crucible on elite it comes in handy and I didn't really have anything else to do with the points except UMD (but wouldn't get it very high).

Thanks again for the feedback. Looking forward to more.

36 seconds for a displacement scroll with artificer dilettante. With 30 second displacement scrolls I duo'd epic lords of dust on my rogue with a monk up to death knights before a sorc joined today, really not sure the dragonmark is necessary (it's good but costs too much - can't build an archer without any melee feats in the current state of the game).

It lasts 2 minutes base or 4 minutes extended at CL:20 unless you have arcane augmentation (in which case add 12/24 seconds).

Always max out UMD if it is available, any build can get to 50% raise dead scrolls which can be enough to save a raid/quest and 70% fireshield scrolls which are amazing.

[Kinerd]

I think it will be very difficult to keep your ki up without any TWF feats. If you went 6 ranger instead of 6 fighter you would get Bow Strength, Rapid Shot, and Manyshot for free, plus ITWF (and Diehard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). You could always drop Toughness >:-D

[Thrudh]

My first monk archer was an elf for the displacement dragonmarks.

Very useful, especially in the lower levels where UMDing displacement scrolls isn't easy (and those scrolls have VERY short duration - I hate them).

After I made some displacement clickables for myself from the Shroud, I TRed into a half-elf monk archer.

[Thrudh]

I think it will be very difficult to keep your ki up without any TWF feats. If you went 6 ranger instead of 6 fighter you would get Bow Strength, Rapid Shot, and Manyshot for free, plus ITWF (and Diehard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). You could always drop Toughness >:-D

Yes, I agree with this.

[QuadroMan1]

It seems that you spent a lot of levels in fighter just to get feats you get from 2 levels of ranger

[unbongwah]

Ftr 6 provides 4 feats; rgr 6 provides 6 vital feats (Bow STR, Rapid Shot, TWF, Precise Shot, Manyshot, ITWF) plus one blah one (Diehard). For a build as feat-starved as this one, rgr is a no-brainer (IMHO).